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    • ?
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      I totally understand you, but you shouldn't compare and read too much. I mean, most of those Ls a great lenses, you can't wrong most of the time and resale value is probably high too.

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        the L lenses are overkill for most of us
        if you can afford it, great
        but it's largely unnecessary

        good photos are more about the scene, the light, the composition and framing, timing, being there and being ready

        most of us are better to get a decent but cheaper lens
        and just shoot the hell out of it
        save money for prints

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          Well put! +1

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            Its true, I did save up for an L lens though so I will be buying either the 35 or the 24-70. From what I have read though it is better to buy the zoom lens than the prime as I am sure I can find the same lens with smaller tweaks to it (smaller aperture), but the only thing is the quality. I am probably going to go for the 24-70 though, just keeping my horizons open.

            I can always get the cheaper prime lenses later on.

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            • crisoneC
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              +2

              After that, no more talk…....let's see piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiics.  This pic might be in this thread somewhere, but since we're on Lens talk, a pic of a Lens using an L Lens, haha:

              One "con" of a 24-70L, it's heavy as shit, why they call it a "brick"

              Cris.

              RIP GEO

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                zoom versus prime has really nothing to do with reading someone else's opinion or review…

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                  . by the švabo, on Flickr

                  My favorite dog, Django. Dumb as fuck but the sweetest thing you can imagine.  😘

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                  • Finn666F
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                    so lax what's it gonna be in the end?

                    I'm going to go for 35mm 1:1.8…just the money I can spend atm and yeah I'm with jaco on this...
                    @jacoavlu:

                    good photos are more about the scene, the light, the composition and framing, timing, being there and being ready

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                      I think it is going to be the 24-70, I'm just trying to keep my horizons open for when I do buy it I wont end up regretting it (although i thunk that will be hard with such nice lenses).

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                        Finn
                        good choice

                        lax - if you're thinking of the 35, do this:
                        get out your zoom, set that shit at 35mm
                        and tape across the zoom ring so you can't turn it
                        force yourself to shoot at that length for a week or two
                        see how you like it… can you live without the flexibility?
                        plus you may prefer another length. 28? 50?
                        there's quality lenses at any length.

                        it depends how you shoot typically
                        28 is great for street, scenes, groups of people, intimate, city wides, requires composition and getting in close. Google Garry Winogrand he always shot 28
                        35 is classic, versatile, the length looks natural to many.
                        50 is not quite wide, not quite tele. Can do some portrait, some scenes. But for some it's too in between (and a 35 on a crop camera is gonna be near 50) google Henri Cartier Bresson, he always shot 50

                        and on and on...

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                          but like Cris said… pics
                          Leica MP, 35/2 ASPH, Kodachrome

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                          • madmondayM
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                            whoopie, pics.

                            nice jaco.

                            that dog has pleading eyes holla & the way the focus is on his head is pretty cool.

                            cris nice shot of an item i would not appreciate unless in a photo.

                            head high, middle finger higher

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                              Thx, monday. Awesome shot, Jaco! I should have bought some Kodachrome before it was discontinued…

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                              • dizcoD
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                                @jacoavlu:

                                but like Cris said… pics
                                Leica MP, 35/2 ASPH, Kodachrome

                                yes, summicron

                                already own the 50 and still looking for any good deal for the 35 🙂

                                it's not a jeans, it's an iron heart

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                                  @jacoavlu:

                                  lax - if you're thinking of the 35, do this:
                                  get out your zoom, set that shit at 35mm
                                  and tape across the zoom ring so you can't turn it
                                  force yourself to shoot at that length for a week or two
                                  see how you like it… can you live without the flexibility?
                                  plus you may prefer another length. 28? 50?
                                  there's quality lenses at any length.

                                  Hmm… yeah I think I like a zoom more so now. Well put btw. My ideal would be @ 24. I am going with a zoom lens for now though, I think if I wind up getting a FF body then I will get prime lenses (maybe even before), but I will just get the non L ones since I know the difference b/w L and non-L isn't that much.

                                  @jacoavlu:

                                  it depends how you shoot typically
                                  28 is great for street, scenes, groups of people, intimate, city wides, requires composition and getting in close. Google Garry Winogrand he always shot 28
                                  35 is classic, versatile, the length looks natural to many.
                                  50 is not quite wide, not quite tele. Can do some portrait, some scenes. But for some it's too in between (and a 35 on a crop camera is gonna be near 50) google Henri Cartier Bresson, he always shot 50

                                  and on and on…

                                  Yeah, as you have convinced me now that I think the 24-70 is the way to go, I guess that is going to be the way I go. Doubt I will change my mind anymore, but if I do I will just look back here and re-convince myself that the 24-70 is the way to go. I am hopefully going to order it ASAP as I don't feel like waiting anymore. And so I don't bore anyone… PICTURE TIME!

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                                    not trying to convince you my friend
                                    I prefer a 35mm prime myself

                                    just make sure what you buy suits your style - like denim

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                                      Yeah I know what you mean. Ill settle for a 35mm but I won't get the L version, I will get probably the 35mm 2.0. But thats later on down the line. Thanks for all the help though!

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                                        took the dog for a walk
                                        this is looking west from the front drive
                                        middle america

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                                        • crisoneC
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                                          Shots of my Homies S4…......

                                          5D,16-35L, 430ex.

                                          Cris.

                                          RIP GEO

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                                            I had a Canon 24-70, but sold it once I hadn't touched it for a year after getting the 35 f1/4 L prime.  If I ever stop shooting sports, the goal is to sell it all and get an M9–hopefully after they make an M10 and the M9 shows up in the used market 😃

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