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      I think it's a good thing to shoot a 35mm or 50mm (both 35mm film/full frame equivalent) for some time, beginner or not, you might realize it is all you need and that you don't actually need zoom capabilities. "Zooming with your feet" can be a very rewarding experience. Just like using an old manual focus lens like jacoavlu recommended. Especially the EOS mount allows for a lot of old lenses to be mounted and I'd encourage anybody to try that out.

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        I actually find manually focusing my lens much more to my liking than having it autofocus. Not only that but it is quicker for me personally.

        And if anyone owns the 35 1.4L does anyone have an opinion on it?

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          Oh man, you do change your opinion fast… haha. I thought you were dead set on the zoom L? I think you can't go wrong with the 35/1.4. It has a great reputation and is a 50 on a crop sensor, very versatile imo.

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            Yeah, well I do change my mind, but for the better. I am trying to find what lens I would like the best because I will be using it for quite a while haha. I am sure I would be fine with the 24-70 though, just was looking and maybe thinking about the 35 as I didn't even consider it before and its aperture is great for low light.

            I wasn't dead set on the zoom L though, just had a strong feeling that it was it I have been looking for a lens for the past couple of days and was thinking the 24-70 was it but now I see the 35 1.4L! I am reading reviews and trying to compare both, looking at pictures from both, etc…

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              I totally understand you, but you shouldn't compare and read too much. I mean, most of those Ls a great lenses, you can't wrong most of the time and resale value is probably high too.

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                the L lenses are overkill for most of us
                if you can afford it, great
                but it's largely unnecessary

                good photos are more about the scene, the light, the composition and framing, timing, being there and being ready

                most of us are better to get a decent but cheaper lens
                and just shoot the hell out of it
                save money for prints

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                  Well put! +1

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                    Its true, I did save up for an L lens though so I will be buying either the 35 or the 24-70. From what I have read though it is better to buy the zoom lens than the prime as I am sure I can find the same lens with smaller tweaks to it (smaller aperture), but the only thing is the quality. I am probably going to go for the 24-70 though, just keeping my horizons open.

                    I can always get the cheaper prime lenses later on.

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                      After that, no more talk…....let's see piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiics.  This pic might be in this thread somewhere, but since we're on Lens talk, a pic of a Lens using an L Lens, haha:

                      One "con" of a 24-70L, it's heavy as shit, why they call it a "brick"

                      Cris.

                      RIP GEO

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                        zoom versus prime has really nothing to do with reading someone else's opinion or review…

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                          . by the švabo, on Flickr

                          My favorite dog, Django. Dumb as fuck but the sweetest thing you can imagine.  😘

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                            so lax what's it gonna be in the end?

                            I'm going to go for 35mm 1:1.8…just the money I can spend atm and yeah I'm with jaco on this...
                            @jacoavlu:

                            good photos are more about the scene, the light, the composition and framing, timing, being there and being ready

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                              I think it is going to be the 24-70, I'm just trying to keep my horizons open for when I do buy it I wont end up regretting it (although i thunk that will be hard with such nice lenses).

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                                Finn
                                good choice

                                lax - if you're thinking of the 35, do this:
                                get out your zoom, set that shit at 35mm
                                and tape across the zoom ring so you can't turn it
                                force yourself to shoot at that length for a week or two
                                see how you like it… can you live without the flexibility?
                                plus you may prefer another length. 28? 50?
                                there's quality lenses at any length.

                                it depends how you shoot typically
                                28 is great for street, scenes, groups of people, intimate, city wides, requires composition and getting in close. Google Garry Winogrand he always shot 28
                                35 is classic, versatile, the length looks natural to many.
                                50 is not quite wide, not quite tele. Can do some portrait, some scenes. But for some it's too in between (and a 35 on a crop camera is gonna be near 50) google Henri Cartier Bresson, he always shot 50

                                and on and on...

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                                  but like Cris said… pics
                                  Leica MP, 35/2 ASPH, Kodachrome

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                                    whoopie, pics.

                                    nice jaco.

                                    that dog has pleading eyes holla & the way the focus is on his head is pretty cool.

                                    cris nice shot of an item i would not appreciate unless in a photo.

                                    head high, middle finger higher

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                                      Thx, monday. Awesome shot, Jaco! I should have bought some Kodachrome before it was discontinued…

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                                        @jacoavlu:

                                        but like Cris said… pics
                                        Leica MP, 35/2 ASPH, Kodachrome

                                        yes, summicron

                                        already own the 50 and still looking for any good deal for the 35 🙂

                                        it's not a jeans, it's an iron heart

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                                          @jacoavlu:

                                          lax - if you're thinking of the 35, do this:
                                          get out your zoom, set that shit at 35mm
                                          and tape across the zoom ring so you can't turn it
                                          force yourself to shoot at that length for a week or two
                                          see how you like it… can you live without the flexibility?
                                          plus you may prefer another length. 28? 50?
                                          there's quality lenses at any length.

                                          Hmm… yeah I think I like a zoom more so now. Well put btw. My ideal would be @ 24. I am going with a zoom lens for now though, I think if I wind up getting a FF body then I will get prime lenses (maybe even before), but I will just get the non L ones since I know the difference b/w L and non-L isn't that much.

                                          @jacoavlu:

                                          it depends how you shoot typically
                                          28 is great for street, scenes, groups of people, intimate, city wides, requires composition and getting in close. Google Garry Winogrand he always shot 28
                                          35 is classic, versatile, the length looks natural to many.
                                          50 is not quite wide, not quite tele. Can do some portrait, some scenes. But for some it's too in between (and a 35 on a crop camera is gonna be near 50) google Henri Cartier Bresson, he always shot 50

                                          and on and on…

                                          Yeah, as you have convinced me now that I think the 24-70 is the way to go, I guess that is going to be the way I go. Doubt I will change my mind anymore, but if I do I will just look back here and re-convince myself that the 24-70 is the way to go. I am hopefully going to order it ASAP as I don't feel like waiting anymore. And so I don't bore anyone… PICTURE TIME!

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                                            not trying to convince you my friend
                                            I prefer a 35mm prime myself

                                            just make sure what you buy suits your style - like denim

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