Motor Sport
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What's the atmosphere like @mclaincausey?
Those stands in Mexico makes it looks like the circuit drives through a football stadium. Must be an awesome vibe.
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Man @mclaincausey you got to see a hell of a race! Hope you enjoyed it! Killer drive by Lando!
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Why were the crowd booing Lando @mclaincausey?
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@Bridger said in Motor Sport:
What's the atmosphere like @mclaincausey?
Those stands in Mexico makes it looks like the circuit drives through a football stadium. Must be an awesome vibe.
Atmosphere was electric. They love their F1 down here and when Checo comes back in a Cadillac it’ll be even crazier.
It was an awesome race especially for someone pulling for Lando this season, and especially as an admirer of Max. I feel like Lewis was shafted by race control, and the VSC at the end denied us a spicy overtake battle between Charles and Max, but aside from those things a perfect race.
Lando has a lot of haters. I don’t get it. I think some of it is OP fans (some of that lot are so crazy they entertain conspiracy theories that McLaren has nerfed his car). Red Bull and Ferrari are also quite popular there, so perhaps some of the hate was coming from those fan bases.
We were in 15, the north stands in the stadium, for qualy, and then 14, the south stands in the stadium, for the race. While I am curious about other areas, this was a great area for sure.
Grada 14:
!Grada 15:
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Think it, be it.
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insane vibes
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Looks epic @mclaincausey thanks for sharing!
Never thought of visiting Mexico for a race but it sounds great.
How were the travel logistics getting in and out of the track each day?
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@Bridger we stayed in La Condesa, which is a great area because it is safe, clean, and has a a lot of very nice local cafes, bars, restaurants, and clubs. I will not even look elsewhere in future trips, it was that good. When we went to other neighborhoods, they were cool, but for example Polanco, where we had a tasting at Pujol, it felt nice but less local, less authentically Mexican, more international shopping, etc. Roma Norte was another nice, but not Condesa nice, area.
The brown line metro from there was a direct shot. For our seats, best to use the Velodrome station, for others, one station further. This was 7 stops from a 15 minute walk on each end, and about another 15 minutes on a train that runs every 3 minutes.
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Interlagos never disappoints! Well, def a bummer for Ferrari. What a weekend.
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Great weekend indeed. Gutted for Ferrari’s drivers. I think Lewis is just going to have to live with his 7 WDCs and am gutted for him and Charles, and especially Bortoleto this weekend. Very pleased for Lando and starting to question the ceiling and inevitability of Piastri.
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@mclaincausey said in Motor Sport:
I think Lewis is just going to have to live with his 7 WDCs and am gutted for him and Charles,
never underestimate the power of 'next year's our year'
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I don’t know if Hamilton still has it in him…the mental aspect of racing just doesn’t seem to be there anymore and I’m afraid the physical slips with age.
He will still win an occasional race, but I don’t think we’ll ever see him on the championship podium again.
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@goosehd thats kind of where I am. Ferrari took it out of him at warp speed. They’re getting better at being a WDC graveyard at least!
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yeah I did think about that the other day. is it his age, the team or a combination of both that he isn't performing any more. he may be old but then again, Alonso's doing ok for his age too
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@louisbosco probably that magic age where you realize that you're not young anymore, start having self doubts, and wondering if you still can. Next stage is not giving a fuck, acceptance that you can't, and just having fun.
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"leave the game before the game leaves you"
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It’s wild to me how arrogant and clueless Ferrari are.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/fans-praise-buttons-fierce-response-to-elkann-criticism
The common denominator in Ferrari’s futility and their being a graveyard for WDC drivers is Ferrari. Leclerc is IMO the second best driver on the grid if you control for the car, strategy, and other factors, and he’s only finished P2 in WDC one time over his entire run with them. Look in the mirror.
Or at least pretend to.
Think it, be it.
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Yeah, Leclerc is def up there as far as drivers go. Sainz too (not really showing it since joining Williams however). Not much of a Hamilton fan but I appreciate his talent and record. He's in great shape for his age and still peaking. Ferrari has def put a damper on his mental state though, and that's surely why he's suffering. I think the car development absolutely has more to do with results than driver, except in rare cases, such as with Max. This season is proof of that.
"The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
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@mclaincausey oh a mate of mine sent me this today. Didn’t think it was real, but then realise it was.
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@WhiskeySandwich they say the driver is something like 15-25% impact on outcomes.
I built a driver assessment model that scores qualifying and racing performance, weighing qualifying 40% to racing’s 60%, controls for car differences by comparing performance against teammates, controls for strategy differences by looking at positions gained/lost, and incorporates pit stop efficiency and a number of other factors available over public APIs. Looking at 2020 through Brazil 2025, Max first with a substantial lead, then Charles, Norris, Hamilton, Russell, and Alonso in that order in a tighter cluster. Hamilton is sliding and benefited from earlier years, Alonso benefitted from 2023 in particular, and the trajectories of Russell and Oscar have a similar upward slope. Norris was slightly down this year relative to last in the model but if his form continues obviously that will change. He benefits from consistency and being a strong qualifier and racer, but, tellingly, his race score is of course a bit lower, speaking to his well documented sometimes overly gentlemanly / not aggressive enough racing.
As much as I like him and as impressive as his racecraft can be, Sainz was a bit below that Elite cluster, where Max is the sole occupant of the Generational cluster for the period of the analysis. Perhaps this is unfairly distorted by having Leclerc as a teammate, but Lando was beating Sainz in qualifying in 2020 and 2021 and by 2021 had almost a 50/50 split in points share. It’ll be interesting to see how all this shakes out over time and whether and for how long Lando can hold Piastri off. Team strategy and his own mistakes and conservatism have limited him in the past. We may see a different driver in the future.
