Hard Drinkers, Lets Drink Hard (Spirits, Liquors and Cocktails)
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@pechelman Crazy.. I’m noticing I’m putting stuff back on the shelves more and more these days when I realise I’m paying three times as much for it as I did 5 years ago.
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@DeeDee85 Also for reasons beyond my comprehension,some areas of the country get less,significantly less than others. If my local liquor store only gets 6 bottles,even if the MSRP is only about $40,he knows the scarcity of it in this area,and that people sell it for much more on the secondary market,so he jacks up the price,and he does not share the extra money with anyone.
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@goosehd I’m sad to say I’ve played my part in the Rolex scalping game, watches were sort of my OCD hobby which led into OCD Iron Heart purchasing..
I wore them and moved them on when i needed the funds. The fact you could make a bit of profit at the same time was a bonus. But eventually got black listed as a scalper with my local AD for listing a Submariner on eBay. I’d kind of fell out with it the whole thing by then due to the artificial scarcity anyway and there was Iron Heart to fill the OCD hole in my life just when I needed it
The whiskey scalping thing is entirely new to me but I did wonder why you guys seemed to struggle to get the whiskeys we can get at a discount here in the UK. -
@DeeDee85 As far as I know the only time you get to buy bourbon directly from the distillery is in their gift shop. Otherwise all their products are sent/sold to distributors in every state,who in turn distribute the bourbon to the liquor stores. Had to look this up,but Sazerac is the parent company that owns Buffalo Trace along with over 450 brands of spirits cocktails and related products all across the globe,so having their products all over the world is as important to them as the US market. Bourbon isn’t a big deal,or as big of a deal,at this time,as it is in the US,so it sits on the shelf’s in the UK. Let me know if you find any Pappy Van Winkle sitting on the shelf at list price.
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450 brands? Wow.. What is the list price for the Pappy Van Winkle? @Jett129
I’m guessing it’s not £1400 for the 15 year old and £2500 for the 20?
that’s what they are coming up at here in the UK. Masterofmalt.com has let me set an email notification for an “arriving soon” bottle of 13 year old Pappy Van Winkle Rye for £200 which is a bit more realistic -
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@Jett129 Understandable now that scalpers latched onto it looking at the list prices. I’d be happy to send you over the bottle of Rye from master of malt for £200 if I get the email from them? Not sure how we’d get on with customs etc but please let me know if you are interested
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@pechelman Is the state sales tax really 20.5%?
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@DeeDee85 I wonder the same thing. I'm on a few local lists for this and a few other BTD picks. They take months in between bottles. Most local shops get jack shit for allocations and you have to be on the list to get it. There was a big boom on BTD products a few years ago that is apparently dying down a little now, but the backlog got huge when demand went up and supply stayed the same. I imagine the reason it didn't happen there because the demand could have remained consistent along with the allocations.
As a result of the boom BTD did release a bunch of new products aimed at satisfying the demand but i dont think they went over very well. There are now new Benchmark variations (apparently all of which do share a mashbill with other BTD products other than the wheated versions) and stuff available but none are at the same level as the 'base model' BT bourbon, which i have yet to see return to shelves (along with Eagle Rare) without a markup. Before all this prices were about 27USD for BT and 37USD for ER, now they're about double that from just a few years ago. hope availability returns to normal soon since demand seems to be dropping (in favor of gin, apparently).
The lack of US market US brand products does piss me off. Red Wing is hugely guilty of this too.
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@DeeDee85 this too. its driven me to expirement more and try new stuff. Most of the rarities are a good deal at regular price, but for double, they're meh so i'd rather find the next killer buy.
