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    • DeeDee85D
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      Please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but it is genuinely something I’ve thought about a few times while reading this thread.. Why is it you guys in the US struggle to buy your own whiskeys? @Jett129

      I purchased this bottle of Eagle Rare 10 at my local Tesco on a clubcard offer just before last Xmas for £29 and they had shelves full of it. It’s still widely available and even on Amazon.co.uk for £33. I might need to polish up on my geo-politics but it’s baffling how this can be shipped 4000 miles accross the planet and sold to us for almost half the price you guys are paying?

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      • pechelmanP
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        Simple supply and demand; Demand exceeds supply.

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        • DeeDee85D
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          @pechelman So is the price you pay inflated due to the scarcity? Meaning you would pay less than us if supply met demand? Also, do the profits from the inflated price go the vendor or the distiller?

          It just seems like it would make more sense to not bother exporting it to sit on shelves in the UK and end up selling heavily discounted and save it for yourselves.

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          • pechelmanP
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            I don't bother with the whisky craze right now so I don't pay the higher prices, but yes, people are paying crazy prices. The bottle of weller I used to buy for like 15$ over 10 years ago is like 100$ if you can even find it.

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            • ÆRϺΔΚÆ
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              Really nice one.

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              • DeeDee85D
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                @pechelman Crazy.. I’m noticing I’m putting stuff back on the shelves more and more these days when I realise I’m paying three times as much for it as I did 5 years ago.

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                • J
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                  @DeeDee85 Also for reasons beyond my comprehension,some areas of the country get less,significantly less than others. If my local liquor store only gets 6 bottles,even if the MSRP is only about $40,he knows the scarcity of it in this area,and that people sell it for much more on the secondary market,so he jacks up the price,and he does not share the extra money with anyone.

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                  • DeeDee85D
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                    @Jett129 thank you for the insight, still seems crazy to me that whiskey scalpers exist 😂

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                    • goosehdG
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                      @DeeDee85 Same thing happened with knives, Rolex, whisky, etc. It’s whatever someone thinks they can make money on.

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      • ÆRϺΔΚÆ
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                        Started my weekend with this one, can’t remember or read what kind of sake it is though (Kimoto maybe). Got it in Osaka this February. Not really hard liquor, but very nice.

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                        • DeeDee85D
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                          @goosehd I’m sad to say I’ve played my part in the Rolex scalping game, watches were sort of my OCD hobby which led into OCD Iron Heart purchasing..
                          I wore them and moved them on when i needed the funds. The fact you could make a bit of profit at the same time was a bonus. But eventually got black listed as a scalper with my local AD for listing a Submariner on eBay. I’d kind of fell out with it the whole thing by then due to the artificial scarcity anyway and there was Iron Heart to fill the OCD hole in my life just when I needed it 😂
                          The whiskey scalping thing is entirely new to me but I did wonder why you guys seemed to struggle to get the whiskeys we can get at a discount here in the UK.

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                          • J
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                            @DeeDee85 As far as I know the only time you get to buy bourbon directly from the distillery is in their gift shop. Otherwise all their products are sent/sold to distributors in every state,who in turn distribute the bourbon to the liquor stores. Had to look this up,but Sazerac is the parent company that owns Buffalo Trace along with over 450 brands of spirits cocktails and related products all across the globe,so having their products all over the world is as important to them as the US market. Bourbon isn’t a big deal,or as big of a deal,at this time,as it is in the US,so it sits on the shelf’s in the UK. Let me know if you find any Pappy Van Winkle sitting on the shelf at list price.

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                            • DeeDee85D
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                              450 brands? Wow.. What is the list price for the Pappy Van Winkle? @Jett129
                              I’m guessing it’s not £1400 for the 15 year old and £2500 for the 20? 😳 that’s what they are coming up at here in the UK. Masterofmalt.com has let me set an email notification for an “arriving soon” bottle of 13 year old Pappy Van Winkle Rye for £200 which is a bit more realistic 😂

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                              • Tago MagoT
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                                @goosehd Cuban cigars…

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                                  @DeeDee85 Here you go. Last time I was able to buy the 20 year old was 2006,and I paid $75 IMG_0231.jpeg

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                                  • pechelmanP
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                                    i had a connection that was able to get me a bottle of the 12yr reserve for ~70$ around the 2010 range iirc. I kinda recall being underwhelmed by it even back then for all the hype around it.

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                                      @pechelman The rye was always my favorite.

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                                      • DeeDee85D
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                                        @Jett129 Understandable now that scalpers latched onto it looking at the list prices. I’d be happy to send you over the bottle of Rye from master of malt for £200 if I get the email from them? Not sure how we’d get on with customs etc but please let me know if you are interested 👍🏼

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