IH-301S

[Seul]

@monday:

just whatever you do don't ask/listen to seul, hahahahahahahaha

Backed.

[madmonday]

hahahaahahaha

i'm sure some fat bloc has a pair . .. . is bloc a term you folks use,  hahahahahahaha

sure i offended somebody, "said you folks" hahahahahahahahaahaha

[jacoavlu]

is that 7301 denim used for anything else besides that one jean?

[madmonday]

you always have good questions jaco.

i don't think so, or if it is, it hasn't made it out to the masses yet

[barun]

@Finn666:

^ordered from SE?

no bought from "derivative666's" sale thread.  he bought them and didn't like the fit so he never wore them.  Good news for me!

[Finn666]

size 38 right?

monday - fitpics are def. needed and imo its almost impossible that really NO ONE knows how this denim will fade and/or has a faded pair flying around somewhere…damn, you know im after this kinda cut.
so if you can show me a pic of a faded pair 7301s i might think about the choice i`ve made a few weeks ago...

[madmonday]

nah, can't do your research for you buddy.

they will just sit in my closet & wait until some one buys them or if i get annoyed looking at them i might just donate them to goodwill/salvation army for a tax write off

& it's not impossible if you think about how many of these are actually around.  can't be that many & everyone isn't into forums & the like.  we are actually the minority, hahahahahaahahahahaha

i did it again

[jacoavlu]

so the 7301 just the signature 21oz denim
but sulpher dyed instead of indigo?

[Giles]

Yes and not used for any other jean thus far….

[jacoavlu]

I declare it to be
That there does not exist
A faded pair of 7301s
In the civilized world

Some big dude
Needs to buy monday's cheapo pair
And become The One

[Finn666]

@Giles:

Yes and not used for any other jean thus far….

how come the SExIH07 is 19oz and the 7301s is 21oz denim, if they are using the same denim on these?…

[Giles]

They are not the same denim

[Finn666]

somehow i have the feeling that some posts are missing…:-[ wtf?

[Giles]

I took a few out that were confusing

[Finn666]

^now i`m even more confused since your post (comparing 07 with 7301) got deleted :D…

so it`s actually just this then
@jacoavlu:

so the 7301 just the signature 21oz denim
but sulpher dyed instead of indigo?

any change for you to explain the main differences in the dying process and how different they will fade?

[Giles]

The warp yarns are rope dyed in black sulphur dye rather than indigo.  The warp will abrade to white (just like the indigo version does) but go light gray rather than light blue…

[Finn666]

so it`s actually the same thing as happened on the Buster SBG?…the 7301 will also fade to grey instead of a nice blue-ish color?

[Giles]

No, because the weft in the sbg is black reactive dyed not white.  So the warps are the same, but the wefts are different…..

All 21 oz black overdyed models are 21oz indigo (white weft, indigo warp) denim
sbg is black sulphur rope dyed warp/black reactive dyed weft
21oz in the 7301 is black sulphur rope dyed warp/undyed weft

[Finn666]

pretty interesting…thanks G.

so compared to the 666Sod, with od white weft and indigo warp, the 7301 has just an od warp and an ud weft...how does this differ when it comes to creating fades?

sry, but i`m still trying to get there...^^

[Giles]

No.

The 666Sod is garment dyed after production.  The blue jean is dunked in a vat of dye and the dye penetrates the core of both the weft and the warp.

The 7301 has a black rope dyed warp (so it has a white core - this is what rope dying does as the yarns go through the vats of dye twisted so that there is high surface tension that the dye cant penetrate).

So the 7301 will fade like a normal blue jean, just from black to grey.  The overdyed jeans never expose a white core because there is none.