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    • Finn666F
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      @Giles:

      Yes and not used for any other jean thus far….

      how come the SExIH07 is 19oz and the 7301s is 21oz denim, if they are using the same denim on these?…

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      • GilesG
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        They are not the same denim

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • Finn666F
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          somehow i have the feeling that some posts are missing…:-[ wtf?

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          • GilesG
            Giles
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            I took a few out that were confusing

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • Finn666F
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              ^now i`m even more confused since your post (comparing 07 with 7301) got deleted :D…

              so it`s actually just this then
              @jacoavlu:

              so the 7301 just the signature 21oz denim
              but sulpher dyed instead of indigo?

              any change for you to explain the main differences in the dying process and how different they will fade?

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              • GilesG
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                The warp yarns are rope dyed in black sulphur dye rather than indigo.  The warp will abrade to white (just like the indigo version does) but go light gray rather than light blue…

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • Finn666F
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                  so it`s actually the same thing as happened on the Buster SBG?…the 7301 will also fade to grey instead of a nice blue-ish color?

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                  • GilesG
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                    No, because the weft in the sbg is black reactive dyed not white.  So the warps are the same, but the wefts are different…..

                    All 21 oz black overdyed models are 21oz indigo (white weft, indigo warp) denim
                    sbg is black sulphur rope dyed warp/black reactive dyed weft
                    21oz in the 7301 is black sulphur rope dyed warp/undyed weft

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • Finn666F
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                      pretty interesting…thanks G.

                      so compared to the 666Sod, with od white weft and indigo warp, the 7301 has just an od warp and an ud weft...how does this differ when it comes to creating fades?

                      sry, but i`m still trying to get there...^^

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                      • GilesG
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                        No.

                        The 666Sod is garment dyed after production.  The blue jean is dunked in a vat of dye and the dye penetrates the core of both the weft and the warp.

                        The 7301 has a black rope dyed warp (so it has a white core - this is what rope dying does as the yarns go through the vats of dye twisted so that there is high surface tension that the dye cant penetrate).

                        So the 7301 will fade like a normal blue jean, just from black to grey.  The overdyed jeans never expose a white core because there is none.

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • Finn666F
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                          ^now i got it :)…thx for your time G. 😘

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                          • GilesG
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                            Phew….....

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • Finn666F
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                              hahaha 😃

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                              • SeulS
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                                @Giles:

                                Phew….....

                                Cosigned, the entire fecking forum.

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                                • madmondayM
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                                  Giles I feel for you.

                                  You know how long I've dealt with this 😢

                                  head high, middle finger higher

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                                  • Finn666F
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                                    just cuz i was the one bringin the question down to paper/or on the page…:D
                                    i think there were many other guys (you as well Mr.Piggy) which were also confused about this whole warp and weft thing and the different dye methods and all...so be thankful you bastards 😉

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                                    • SeulS
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                                      It's the 301 cut - I'm quite indifferent about it… But I was just joking lad...  😉

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                                      • madmondayM
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                                        nope had no such questions, & i'm pretty good about making an ass of myself  😶

                                        head high, middle finger higher

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          @monday:

                                          i'm pretty good about making an ass of myself  😶

                                          Comes as natural as breathing to me.

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                                          • Finn666F
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                                            check my sig. guys ;)…

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