Double Helix
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@cityofdelusion 0.8mm suede brown horsehide? Couldn't resist, so here we are.
And here's a bad quality fit photo:
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@cityofdelusion looks great man. How’s the fit on it?
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@ZackB Thanks! I can only compare this jacket to IH type III jackets since I have five of them - each either made of a different fabric or a different colour.
Generally, I'd describe the fit of the Double Helix type III jacket as "boxier" in comparison. For example, the arms are noticeably looser than the arms of IH type III jackets, and they also don't taper as aggressively as IH Type III jackets do - especially towards the sleeve opening. The rest of the jacket fits almost exactly like an IH type III jacket would fit me in the same tag size - perhaps the front length is ever so slightly shorter (ca. 1-1.5cm) on the Double Helix, and the naval area isn't as much tapered as IH type III jackets tend to be.
Overall, if I had to pick an IH type III jacket that the Double Helix jacket fits closest to, I'd say the IHJ-69 which I have in brown (discontinued) and khaki. In terms of style, I could have went for the IHJ-49-BRN instead of this, but the Double Helix is, with its 0.8mm thickness, significantly (!) lighter and thinner; is more pliable, has a way nicer brown tone and it's also made of an insanely soft horsehide which almost even feels like sheepskin vs. the steerhide on the IH version.
Fun fact: I actually went for this jacket, because it reminds me of my IHJ-69 in brown (although the Double Helix comes in a way deeper and richer brown tone) which apparently my girlfriend decided to gift herself. So the Double Helix jacket will now be mine, and my brown IHJ-69 will be hers.
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@cityofdelusion that’s awesome to hear, I love the IHJ-69 brown and khaki. I love how my Iron Heart T3 fits me, the 525J-142ib. I’ll keep your advice in mind if I go for one. I really love their indigo dyed jackets but I’m not sure if it’s a little too flashy for me.
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@ZackB No worries, glad I can be of help since there isn't any information available out there, if anything, on this particular model.
I found a fit check post of mine from 2019 in the IHJ-69 thread. Below is a comparison of the IHJ-69 (right) vs. Double Helix Western Pioneer P Horsehide Suede Jacket (left) - but keep in mind that the body proportions differ between the two photos:
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@cityofdelusion I definitely see the more box I was of it like you were saying. But you’re happy going with the same size?
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@ZackB Yep, I'm glad I went for this size, but I would have preferred a slightly longer front length unlike many who like their type III jackets on the short side. If I went for a smaller size than this on the Double Helix jacket, it would be too tight in the chest, shoulder, naval and opening areas. And if I went for a size larger than this, most noticeably the sleeve length would be too long and possibly also the chest area would be too big (= buttons will be closer to button holes when the jacket is worn unbuttoned, if that makes sense).
Also keep in mind that I almost always go for tag size "S" on the IH type III jackets which translates to size "36", and I went for tag size "38" on the Double Helix jacket which is at the larger end of tag size S, or at the smaller end of tag size M as far as I know. But when buying anything Iron Heart, I never go by tag size anyway and always go by measurements. So comparing tag sizes between the two brands and their products wouldn't yield any reliable and satisfactory results or make any sense.
Also, with Double Helix, a) you may not be able to find a size chart at all on your chosen retailer's product page, b) if you do, they may not/probably won't be as accurate as IH measures, and c) if you decide to blindly trust the size chart on Double Helix's own product page, the actual jacket you receive might end up being smaller than what they state in their size chart as was for example in my case - but in my case, luckily to my advantage.
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@cityofdelusion yeah I was looking on double helix”s website and the measurements are dramatically different than Redcast heritage, almost a full size. Appreciate the help.
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@cityofdelusion great information. Much appreciated. I actually have been eyeing The Shop Vancouver pioneer black type 3 and put a 42 in my cart this afternoon after reading your posts only for it to sell out this evening when I got home. Might be something I kick myself in the ass for not pulling the trigger on sooner. That inner pocket and brushed buttons were it, man
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Placed a custom order for another jacket after buying the above jacket. Can't. Wait. To be continued.
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It's here - my custom order 1.0-1.1mm Single Legend (Cafe Racer) Jacket:
Words aren't enough right now, to describe how thrilled I am with how my custom jacket turned out to be... So I will come back to this thread when I have the right words to describe how amazing this jacket is...
Note: The size is NOT custom - it's a stock size 38. The only custom changes are hardware and leather related.
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@cityofdelusion holy shit that is amazing and an absolutely spot on fit to me. Interested in your thoughts once you find the words
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@cityofdelusion that is an amazing jacket!
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@endo what’s your chest size? I’m ordering the same jacket and am deciding between a 44 and 46. My chest measures 44”.
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Devil in the details double rider
The world's insane
While you drink champagne
And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕 -
@Kasi This is the Deviant, right? What are your thoughts on it now that you‘ve had it a little while? I‘m really interested in this one; I love how it‘s simplified compared to the normal D pocket jackets. How does this 40 fit compared to the 40 in the double rider from the flat head?
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Yes it Deviant fit kind of same. Tiny bit bigger in the chest.
Like both flat head double is my favourite 1
