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Looked like we might have a constructor’s race until a Ferrari double bin. Today it’s Le Mans. I guess I should pull for Caddy or Porsche. Love what Ferrari did last year too though.
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What a race! More safety car than one would ever want but thrilled for Ferrari team 50 and United Autosports. For Ferrari to win back to back in a category they’ve been absent from for 50 years and for each team win one is exactly how they would have scripted it.
Happy for DeVries placing second on Toyota Gazoo #7 as well after a humiliating F1 stint.
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Really brutal from Max today but some inept race management led up to it; they should have penalized Lando for track limits sooner to be honest even though I was pulling for him, but I think the desperation the lack of that put into max made him pt his elbows out too far. Then the stewards failed to rein that in. Ultimately Lando and McLaren got completely torpedoed. There needs to be a grid place penalty or else there’s no reason not to torpedo cars with greater pace.
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@mclaincausey yeah I’ve been waiting for that battle all season. It was unfortunate to see how it went down. I think the stewards might have mishandled some things and Max may have let nerves get to him. Ultimately, it just ended up being a loss for everyone except George. Just a bit of shitluck exacerbated by overexcitement. I’m sure the battle will continue, hopefully cleaner next time.
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I'm not a Lewis fan but I definitely felt emotional watching him win last night.. hope he does well next year too
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@louisbosco dude i hear that. I was unexpectedly psyched for him getting that win. Def bummed for Lando tho
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Great race but how many times is McLaren going to mess up key decisions? They gave away a 1-2. No idea what they were thinking.
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@mclaincausey right?! it's like they took a page from Ferrari's playbook.
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Not the first time this season either… had plenty of time to pit Norris ahead of an obvious SC to come in Montreal and he would have been first behind the SC had they done so. Perhaps VER would have passed as the track dried but we will never know. I think Logan’s car had been out in an obvious crane-removal situation maybe 30 seconds so it was plenty of time for them to pit him. I couldn’t believe it when he passed the pitlane in the same way I couldn’t believe Norris and Piastri passed the pit lane Sunday at Silverstone. And they were debating tires as Norris was in the pit lane. In some scenarios you should just take the obvious decision and leave the driver alone.
But I am extremely happy Lewis won, despite being frustrated with McLaren’s issues running the race. I just want a WCC/WDC race.
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Can’t believe they went for the soft versus brand new mediums. Wasn’t Lando on mediums when he caught Max around lap 20?
Thats almost as bad as the commentators saying not to bring anyone in for Inters during the first little shower of rain, and a lap or two later Ferrari bring in Leclerc…
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its easy to judge the calls in hindsight, but not knowing what the weather was going to do from lap to lap, or from turn to turn for that matter, def turned it into a crapshoot on strategy. I was watching live just enjoying seeing who could maintain their composure in the frantic scramble. Some of those decisions did make me facepalm on the spot though. Others gave me the satisfaction of having been able to call it right before seeing them actually listen to my armchair strategizing.
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@WhiskeySandwich I thought the uncertainty of the weather is what made Silverstone such an amazing race. But I was literally yelling at the TV when Norris passed the pitlane. I know there was some indecision on his part, but imo they should have just said “you’re getting new mediums” and made that happen.
The extra 2 seconds burned on that crappy pit hurt, but that might have been partially Lando’s fault for pulling too far ahead in the pit. But maybe he wouldn’t have done that if they weren't literally quizzing him on hard v soft (only options since they’d given Piastri his mediums) in the pit lane.
I think one thing they might have tried was to ask Piastri to put a bit of distance between himself and Norris, double pit, Medium to Lando and Hard to Piastri, then finish the race. Perhaps there are issues with that strategy but seems good from my armchair.
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@mclaincausey i totally agree with everything you said and i was doing all the same as i watched lol I was on the edge of my seat strategizing, mostly cluelessly, but after the calls were made it was easy to see how it affected the results.
I wasn't nitpicking anybody for judging, i was mostly talking about myself when i was talking about judging in hindsight.
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putting Charles on inter will be the biggest joke this season. as for McLaren, I think they have 2 very "new" drivers that will learn a lot from this experience. their time will come..
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@louisbosco inters on dry. Fred, I thought we’d turned the page on the clown show. That was wild.
While I favor McLaren, I want Ferrari to be competitive too. Give me some spice!
I’m worried that Norris will miss his window, because Piastri looks like he will probably catch him on this trajectory.
One more thing I’ll mention: great to see Hulk performing so well ahead of his Audi residency, which I hope will be fantastic.
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F1 Q&A: Norris, Verstappen, Ocon, Perez, Ricciardo, Magnussen, Newey - BBC Sport
Some points from this article:
Based take on McLaren’s and Lando’s struggles:
*Norris' big issue right now is that he and McLaren are collectively making too many mistakes.
They
He had a chance to win the Canadian Grand Prix - but he and the team did not decide quickly enough to pit under a crucial safety car. Had they, he would have had the lead over Verstappen and track position in the closing stages.Norris was on pole in Spain, but a slightly less good start than Verstappen's cost him the win there.
In Austria, his crash with Verstappen was
unquestionably the Red Bull driver's fault, and he was penalised for it. But could Norris have passed him earlier, or avoided the collision by moving further left and then having another go?And at Silverstone, he missed his marks in the crucial final pit stop, and between him and the team the wrong choice of tyres was put on the car.
Had they chosen mediums - their default choice going into the race, and one they considered at the time - he would likely have passed Lewis Hamilton in the closing laps, judging by the pace of team-mate Oscar Piastri, who did fit mediums.
The feeling is that McLaren are still very new at racing at the front, and are not quite up to the required standard operationally. All teams go through this learning process.*
The most Ferrari thing ever. Arrogant self-own. The whole point of hiring Newey is to “override the system in the company” because it’s never been effective. The last time they were winners was when Schumacher did exactly that.
*Newey was asked in an interview with BBC Sport last November which driver he most wished he had worked with, and he actually named Fernando Alonso, although I believe he has expressed similar sentiments about Hamilton.
As for design chief Newey's future following his decision to leave Red Bull, the word is that the chances of him moving to Ferrari have receded significantly.
Sources close to Ferrari have told BBC Sport that chief executive officer Benedetto Vigna has baulked at the level of salary Newey commands and that there is a concern he would have too much power and could override the system inside the company.
Senior sources in the sport say that Newey is actively engaged with Aston Martin at the moment, and that this is looking his most likely destination. McLaren remain another possibility.
Newey, meanwhile, is said not to have made up his mind where to go.*
Newey to Aston Martin seems even more of a sure thing now.
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I'm late to this one but any WRC fans here? I find it to be the most interesting motorsports real roads, with different road surfaces, driver against the clock , co-drivers yelling directions, the possibility of giraffes running in front of the car, jumps and bumps, and overall some of the most technical and skilled driving you will see....
