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    • goosehdG
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      @neph93 Au naturell 🙂 but both of them are ending up in my belly. Just commenting to G that I still can't get my poolish to explode open like that. A few cracks are all I can manage...

      I'm thinking that I'm not getting the surface tension right. I added moisture to the dough to see if it needed more internal pressure, but that didn't give me the effect that you guys are managing.

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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      • goosehdG
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        @Giles The craziest part of the pan de cristal was how extremely light they are and that they rose considerably when I placed them on the stone to bake. They almost doubled in size from when they went in to the 15 minutes shift to the upper rack.

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        • GilesG
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          I have a lamé, used it once or twice and was underwhelmed with my lamé skills. So now I only go natural. I'm pretty good at getting surface tension into the dough (but nothing like as good as @chap )

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • pechelmanP
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            If oven spring is the same it all comes down to preference. I like the thin crispy texture where the bread splits open in contrast to the thicker but they're fantastic looking either way.

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            • goosehdG
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              @neph93 100% correct call on the Brie with the bread…It worked but wasn’t the perfect combination. Used the bread last night to clean up my butter chicken dish and that was a much better pairing.

              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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              • GilesG
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                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • goosehdG
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                    …much better! How do they taste?

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                    • GilesG
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                      Room for improvement, but better ( or as @Madame-Buttonfly would say “couldn’t be worse”)

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • GilesG
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                        @goosehd said in Bread - What are you baking today…..:

                        …much better! How do they taste?

                        Tell you after dinner (supper, tea?)....

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                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • goosehdG
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                          @Giles Laura wants to know why it’s still covered up…

                          Edit: I want to know where the wine is?

                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          • GilesG
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                            Because we have a couple of courses to get through first.....

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                              In chatting with G about protein content, the flour I’ve been using for the poolish and Pan de Cristal is 13.3%.

                              @neph93 Any idea what your content is? I’m wondering it that’s why my poolish doesn’t explode open or if it’s my technique.

                              The one flour that I’m considering buying has a content around 15/16% which seems pretty high.

                              Love to hear your guys thoughts.

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              • krebsyK
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                                Just FYI, I've had success adding Vital Wheat Gluten to all purpose flour to boost the protein content. There's a good calculator around somewhere online that was a tremendous help in determining how much to add. I mostly went this route to simplify how many types of flour I had piled up in the pantry. It was getting out of control, ha ha!

                                Looks like denim truly is the fabric of our salvation.

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                                • GilesG
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                                  Now that is sage advice......

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    @goosehd I use 13g as a rule as it is the best I can get cheaply. Strong bread flour is a foreign concept to Norwegians as they use so much coarsely ground whole grains and save white flour for buns.

                                    Caputo Manitoba flour (15g), is now available here but costs three time the amount as domestic (about 6USD per kilo), so I only buy it on special occasions.

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                                    • pechelmanP
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                                      For high hydration breads (say anything above 85%) I'd probably want a minimum of 12% gluten. I'm most used to working with ~13-14% in this range and find it works well for me. Most whole wheat/grain flours will have a higher gluten percentage than the average white, ap, or bread flour. These whole wheat flours will/can also take a bit more hydration and I've found make it a little more forgiving and easier to handle at the same hydration. E.g. 90% with a 100% white flour at 14% gluten will be MUCH harder to handle than the exact same hydration level even with ~10% of whole wheat flour in the blend.

                                      Vital wheat gluten also works well, know that it isnt 100% gluten when you're doing calculations. Personally, I'd want a minimum of 12% gluten flour for the breads I like to make, and not worry too much beyond that number. Go by taste from there and have fun mixing/blending flours and, if you can swing it, grinding your own from whole grains.

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        @neph93 said in Bread - What are you baking today…..:

                                        Caputo Manitoba flour (15g), is now available here

                                        I got this yesterday. 14.9% and reasonably priced (I think).

                                        On an unrelated note, I had a very senior moment yesterday and grabbed the wrong white flour. A general purpose 9%er. The Pan de Crystal I made with it would not have won any competitions....

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                            I'm not sure this one is going to work...the dough doesn't have the same feel as last time (not as strong).

                                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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