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Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural

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    Autorotate
    Joined: 6 Feb 2021

    The Pale Rider has landed. Fit is perfect for me. I’m shorter, so the front length is about an inch longer than I prefer, but it’s a minor complaint. Also I am popping buttons with extreme arm movement. I’m going to explore mods to make the snaps just a tad more tight.
    In the pic with my unhappy-at-this-moment son, you really can see the stout, cardboard-like hand of the leather. My initial thoughts are: if one can break this beast, you’ll have a friend for life. Like 3 lifetimes.
    I liberally hand slathered it with Pecard’s Antique formula and put it outside in the sun. It’s sunny and cold here… I believe the leather shade/color benefits from the UV and not the air temp…
    TBD if I decide to soak it. I like the idea of “form fitting” it, but I also recognize the process will probably do nothing to soften it. It’s just gonna take days/months/years of hard wear. That said, I’ve noticed on @louisbosco jacket that the seams have puckered slightly and the collar has formed beautifully. I really like those details!
    I’m taking off to Spain tomorrow, and the shirt will stay home, passively absorbing the Pecard’s in the closet.
    Thanks to all you Pale Rider Riders for the insight, advice and first hand experience. This will be a cool ride.

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      Have a few in the works....

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      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        kkibbey23
        Haraki san Prodigy
        Joined: 16 Oct 2013

        Oh yeah😎 hopefully I’ll grab one

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          louisbosco
          啓蒙家
          Joined: 21 Feb 2013

          @Autorotate looks good mate. Still very fresh yours is.

          Once you get those few wears in and the creases sets in, it should feel a lot better. Including the length and sleeve. I tend to think of mine more as a jacket than shirt so I’m quite okay with the length

          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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            Autorotate
            Joined: 6 Feb 2021

            @Giles i spy an Extractor! 😎

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              Giles
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

              Good spot

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                weegeebee1
                Haraki san Student
                Joined: 6 Jul 2022

                I need these snap hacks. Still popping buttons since I gained a few over the holidays. In meantime, shirt getting wears.

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                  Autorotate
                  Joined: 6 Feb 2021

                  @weegeebee1 i tried using a needle nose plier and ever so slightly bending the circularity of the male snap. Did not achieve desired results. I got scared midway through the project and didn’t want to risk permanently warping the hardware. They are quite malleable.
                  I have another idea that I’m going to try when I get home next week. I’ll post my findings.

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                    Autorotate
                    Joined: 6 Feb 2021

                    Should add… I’m committed to soaking the jacket- and while wet and drying - while I wear it, I’m hoping to achieve some stretch in the back and shoulders. I think then the snaps will have less stress in them. Will document and post findings of course.

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                      the246guy
                      Haraki san Prodigy
                      Joined: 8 May 2016

                      What are the care instructions for this shirt? How do you guys go about keeping them clean? Patina is fine, but most of my IH shirts, after wearing them for quite some time, they have developed a stain around the collar and I could not get it cleaned. So wondering how it is on this leather shirt? I'm considering getting one this time.

                      IH-555N | IH-666S-21 | IH-777D | IH-666 XHS | IHG-035 | IHB-06 | IH-721-KHA
                      IHSH-251 | IHSH-07 | IHSH-246 * 2

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                        Autorotate
                        Joined: 6 Feb 2021

                        My experience with natural leather like this shirt is that permanent darkening/staining is inevitable on contact areas (collar, cuff, placket…). For cleaning, I would use Lexol cleaner followed by Lexol conditioner. This would help to keep it clean, remove salt and dirt, but I’d not expect it to remove the discoloration. The Lexol product will normally not darken the leather post-treatment. Initially, it will darken from the moisture of the product, but will return to pre-treatment shades (30 mins).
                        I am using Pecard’s Antique for softening, conditioning and achieving darker hues. Probably annually, or as the leather needs it. Don’t want to over do this. Can weight the jacket down, and too much can harm the leather fibers. YMMV.
                        I am of the school of “I am impatient for it to darken and patina”. LOL.

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                          the246guy
                          Haraki san Prodigy
                          Joined: 8 May 2016

                          So, this like a leather jacket is not a candidate for the washing machine? Correct? Excuse me for my stupid question!

                          IH-555N | IH-666S-21 | IH-777D | IH-666 XHS | IHG-035 | IHB-06 | IH-721-KHA
                          IHSH-251 | IHSH-07 | IHSH-246 * 2

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                            goosehd
                            Mod Squad
                            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                            Personally, I would not.

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              Autorotate
                              Joined: 6 Feb 2021

                              @the246guy I personally wouldn’t do that.

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                                goosehd
                                Mod Squad
                                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                I would only spot clean and hand wash leather in general. If a jacket is in need of serious cleaning, I would take it to a professional cleaning service that specializes in leather and has very good reviews.

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  Matt
                                  見習いボス
                                  Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                  I wash everything, I would def not wash this.

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                                    weegeebee1
                                    Haraki san Student
                                    @the246guy
                                    Joined: 6 Jul 2022

                                    @the246guy wipe down the collar every few months with damp rag. After apply conditioner if you're wearing and or sweating a lot. The lexol cleaner is good call too if it's like extreme wearing or maybe just once a year kind of thing.

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                                      the246guy
                                      Haraki san Prodigy
                                      Joined: 8 May 2016

                                      If it starts to stink after a few months, how do you care for it then? Excuse me again for another stupid question.

                                      IH-555N | IH-666S-21 | IH-777D | IH-666 XHS | IHG-035 | IHB-06 | IH-721-KHA
                                      IHSH-251 | IHSH-07 | IHSH-246 * 2

                                      last edited by 26 Mar 2023, 20:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Matt
                                        見習いボス
                                        Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                        You could always have it professionally cleaned

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                                          Vaperfavour1313
                                          Haraki san Student
                                          @Giles
                                          Joined: 27 Jan 2021

                                          @Giles any 4xl’s in there??

                                          Make mine Indigo!

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