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    • GilesG
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      This is my Biga this morning.  The tape marked where it was just after the mix at 19:00 last night…..

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • ChapC
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        @neversummer:

        @ everyone- breads look amazing! Really cool to see so many of us around the world baking and sharing photos. If only we could share the bread!
        @Chap interesting- that did not happen to mine, no idea what would cause that. What did you think of working with spelt?

        @neversummer I like it especially with your recipe it was quite easy to handle. The dough was sticky but still good to fold. Taste is nice too… Spelt is quite common in Austria. Half of the bread sold in bakerys are spelt or combinations with spelt. I think each country has it's own preferences regarding bread. In Austria most of the breads sold are dark, with rye or combinations of rye/wheat/spelt and a rising amount of bread made and sold are whole-grain or partly whole-grain. The kind of sourdough bread like the recipes of Forkish, Maurizio aso is not very common in Austria. Since some years ancient grains like Khorasan, Emmer or Einkorn became very popular too.
        My today's bread will be a mostly whole-grain rye/khorasan/spelt bread with a rye levain and a spelt poolish.

        God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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        • ChapC
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          @Chap:

          My today's bread will be a mostly whole-grain rye/khorasan/spelt bread with a rye levain and a spelt poolish.

          Early morning bake

          God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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          • neph93N
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            @Chap  that is a work of art buddy. Beautiful. I’d love some avocado on that or some good ham with cream cheese. Very nice.

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            • neph93N
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              Otherwise gentlemen, talk to me about autolyse… I’ve read about it but what is the conclusion of The Iron Bakers?

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              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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              • ChapC
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                @Chap  that is a work of art buddy. Beautiful. I’d love some avocado on that or some good ham with cream cheese. Very nice.

                Thanks buddy @neph93 yes that‘s what it is made for

                God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                  Beautiful stuf, Chap!..

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                  • ChapC
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                    @neph93:

                    Otherwise gentlemen, talk to me about autolyse… I’ve read about it but what is the conclusion of The Iron Bakers?

                    I don’t no much about it… in my book there is a lot about protein and Gluten and what’s happening to strengthen the dough and the release of sugars to feed the yeasts...that it should be wheat and water only, 20 min to up an hour...

                    God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                    • ChapC
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                      Beautiful stuf, Chap!..

                      ☺️ Thanks buddy

                      God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                      • neph93N
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                        @Chap:

                        @neph93:

                        Otherwise gentlemen, talk to me about autolyse… I’ve read about it but what is the conclusion of The Iron Bakers?

                        I don’t no much about it… in my book there is a lot about protein and Gluten and what’s happening to strengthen the dough and the release of sugars to feed the yeasts...that it should be wheat and water only, 20 min to up an hour...

                        That is my understanding too, but have you noticed a positive effect, with and without an autolyse step?

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                        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                        • GilesG
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                          I always autolyse unless I'm doing a pre-ferment.  I don't really understand the chemistry, but it takes no real time, so seems sensible to do.

                          https://www.bakerybits.co.uk/resources/autolyse-what-why-how/

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • neph93N
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                            The concern I have comes for an article which discussed the difficulties of mixing the salt and starter in, post-autolyse. It all seemed a bit complicated by that point so I haven’t bothered yet. I’ll give it a try today.

                            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                            • GilesG
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                              Hmmm, not encountered that, but I have been concentrating on pre-ferments lately whilst I wait for my new mongrel starter (it gets fed a variety of different flours - white, wholewheat, rye, spelt, chapatti, depending what is at the front of the cupboard when I open it up) to get to a stage that I am comfortable baking with it.

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • neph93N
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                                I’m pretty sure I’m overthunking it (as usual), so I’m just going to do it today and see for myself.

                                Thanks for the feedback gents.

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                                • dinobarnesberlinD
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                                  You guys are killing it with the Bread @Chap that one there…real nice!

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                                  • ROmanR
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                                    I'm not always sure of bread making terminology, but I do the autolyse, usually about 20-30 minutes. I was talking with P & G today, and Paula asked about the potato bread I made. After autolyze, I added the cooled mashed potato, and the water I used was cooled water from boiling the potato. So far its my favorite bread.

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      Today I am making an 80% Biga, the preferment happened overnight.  For the final mix, I substituted 200gms white for 200gms light rye….

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        @ROman:

                                        I'm not always sure of bread making terminology, but I do the autolyse, usually about 20-30 minutes. I was talking with P & G today, and Paula asked about the potato bread I made. After autolyze, I added the cooled mashed potato, and the water I used was cooled water from boiling the potato. So far its my favorite bread.

                                        I have a colleague who makes potato bread and brings it to work. I think he uses potato flour as well as master boiled potato. Wonderful stuff. Very satisfying.

                                        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          This morning I repeated the same bake as I did about five days ago. One spelt sourdough with spelt starter, split into two loaves and one wheat sourdough with rye starter, split into two. Same recipe and largely the same process, with two differences. Firstly I was careful not to overproof (about 30min shorter bulk ferment). Secondly both sets of sourdough had a 30min autolyse with only the flour and water mixed.

                                          I haven’t cut into the wheat loaves yet as they are cooling, but the spelt loaf definitely has a more open, irregular structure than the last time without autolyse, and is fluffier and softer.

                                          Today:

                                          Last week:

                                          I’m going to say the autolyse was the decisive factor.

                                          The Banneton’s were a pleasure to use this time and I’m very happy with the results…


                                          «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Very nice…...

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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