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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    I went fishing with a mate last night.  His GF works in procurement for a large aerospace company.  Since the lock-down, she has been working from home.  It is unlikely that she will ever go back into the office full time again.  The company has calculated that the staff productivity of those workers now working from home has increased by 22%…..

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      jason1967
      Joined: 19 Jan 2020

      A very common theme from a lot of people working in my industry as well Giles

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        neph93
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        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

        This issue has raised some uncomfortable questions in the education sector in Norway. At my level (16-19 yo) the Norwegian government has pushed through a very unpopular policy regarding attendance. If you miss more the 10% of scheduled teaching in a class you lose your grade completely. The students hated it, but it was extremely effective. It has helped massively in lowering the drop-out rate and improving the attainment of the bottom 50% of students.

        When corona hit all that went out the window. While teachers were able to use net based tech to teach effectively the students who needed it the most vanished and we had no recourse to track absentee-ism, or routines for getting them assessed. The ability to audit the participation and engagement  of weak or unmotivated students that you get from seeing them three times a week was suddenly gone.

        Any move towards devolving schooling at this level to digital platforms and away from physical places of work is going to need a small revolution.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

        • Virginia Woolf
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          Omega Man
          Haraki san Student
          Joined: 15 Jul 2010

          @Giles:

          I went fishing with a mate last night.  His GF works in procurement for a large aerospace company.  Since the lock-down, she has been working from home.  It is unlikely that she will ever go back into the office full time again.  The company has calculated that the staff productivity of those workers now working from home has increased by 22%…..

          The dynamics behind working from home (WFH) in this case may be different.  Nothing was opened, no where to go and you couldn't spend time doing other "errands".  Fear of the unknown, workers may be afraid if they don’t step up, they could lose their jobs.  Companies may also be focusing on just one or two key priorities at this time.  Without multitasking and juggling many priorities, employee’s productivity might have gone up.  Read something recently on something call “Ctrip Paradox”.  It was an “experiment” where employees of a Chinese travel company were asked to WFH.  The study shows home workers were more productive, but as a group, they were less content.  Although employers are warming to the idea:  logistically it works, real estate savings, productivity has gone up, WFH may have a long term impact on office morale.  https://news.stanford.edu/2020/03/30/productivity-pitfalls-working-home-age-covid-19/

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            DougNg
            Joined: 24 Sept 2009

            @neph93:

            This issue has raised some uncomfortable questions in the education sector in Norway. At my level (16-19 yo) the Norwegian government has pushed through a very unpopular policy regarding attendance. If you miss more the 10% of scheduled teaching in a class you lose your grade completely. The students hated it, but it was extremely effective. It has helped massively in lowering the drop-out rate and improving the attainment of the bottom 50% of students.

            When corona hit all that went out the window. While teachers were able to use net based tech to teach effectively the students who needed it the most vanished and we had no recourse to track absentee-ism, or routines for getting them assessed. The ability to audit the participation and engagement  of weak or unmotivated students that you get from seeing them three times a week was suddenly gone.

            Any move towards devolving schooling at this level to digital platforms and away from physical places of work is going to need a small revolution.

            We’re encountering the same problem in the govt training sector. We have limited mechanisms to measure engagement, the few we do have are questionable in effectiveness, and exam security is out the window.

            On the flip side of that my productivity has gone through the roof (I work on the administrative side of our training organization). The fact I don’t have to deal with people wandering into my office complaining about random shit has opened up a lot of time in my day.

            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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              Snowy
              Joined: 15 Jun 2012

              most of my lot I get the sense will be looking to do a few days a week in the office. I think once there's a vaccine and we're 1-2 years down the road, we might settle back into old routines more than we think. How easily we adapt.

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                Wish I had the power to decide who gets it and who doesn't….

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  neph93
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  Toerags.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
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                    steelworker
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 16 Apr 2014

                    @Giles:

                    Wish I had the power to decide who gets it and who doesn't….

                    were some of them wearing Confederate underwear?  ::)

                    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                    Well, I have others.

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                      Giles
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                      Probably not.  They would not have been able to order it online or ask for ii in a shop because confederate has way too many syllables…..

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        Omega Man
                        Haraki san Student
                        Joined: 15 Jul 2010

                        This is old news. I don't know if I should laugh or cry  ::)
                        https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1276503730184224768

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                          neph93
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                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                          I’m absolutely gobsmacked. I know I shouldn’t be surprised anymore, but I’m just incapable of understanding this level of dumb.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                          • Virginia Woolf
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                            steelworker
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 16 Apr 2014

                            😃 :D@Omega:

                            This is old news. I don't know if I should laugh or cry  ::)
                            https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1276503730184224768

                            😃 😃 Floridaaah-too much sun has made their brains soft and runny. That's my theory.

                            Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                            Well, I have others.

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                              Jett129
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                              Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                              I think the Gene Pool needs some chlorine.

                              last edited by 27 Jun 2020, 02:53 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • Stuart.TS
                                Stuart.T
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 21 Sept 2017

                                The professional social worker in me understands that just as wealth and the trappings of wealth are inherited, that poverty and the trappings of poverty are equally inherited. The 'Stuart' in me, however, sometimes thinks 'feed em to the lions'. It is a perpetual dichotomy I'm trapped in 😃

                                last edited by 27 Jun 2020, 11:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • dinobarnesberlinD
                                  dinobarnesberlin
                                  啓蒙家
                                  Joined: 28 Mar 2020

                                  A slight dusting of "Thinning the herd" ?

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                                    Jett129
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                                    Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                                    And from the great Popa Chubby.   

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                                    • GraemeG
                                      Graeme
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                      Horseshoe Crab blood as an ingredient in a future Coronavirus vaccine.

                                      https://api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/animals/2020/07/covid-vaccine-needs-horseshoe-crab-blood

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                                      • SeulS
                                        Seul
                                        Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                                        Great news to wake up to  😃 😃 😃

                                        GO COVID-19!..

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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          What, this….. 😶 😶 😶 😶 😶 😶 😶 😶 ?

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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