Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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for starters, i don't mean by saying that a country is fucked to mean any disrespect. if it came across that way, i do apologise.
what i'm trying to explain was things based around australia that i may not agree with. with current situation, isolation is probably best for europe and USA because of the huge spike in the number of cases. they also need a drastic solution to stop the massive spread that's been spiking in the last week.
however, things in australia is still fairly mild. Yes, i understand that it can balloon at any time but they still have time to look over to those countries that i've said to look at what they've done to maintain a low number, no deaths and normal life. rather than jumping straight to the extreme end of what europe and USA and trying to do.
i personally found the problem from the start was that most countries had a fear of "offending" china if you will, that they were slow to ban or restrict travel from china. from what i've read and remembered, most only restricted if you've been to china in the past 14 days rather than outright banning a chinese passport
i'm not trying to play down how bad this is. but with proper measures in place, things may not have turned out the way they are. i'm not fully sure about europe or USA's measures. but i was in singapore in feb and they banned all chinese nationals (as of today, it includes UK, Italy, France and south korea nationals) from entering or transiting through all ports. contact tracing is also another massive thing they focued on to isolate cases quickly. those two steps i've mentioned can be effective in identifying and isolating cases swiftly.
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I went to the local supermarket today to do the weekly shop.
There were no vegetables…
There wasn't much meat…
There was no toilet paper…
The government is going to have to start supplying these soon! :o
Fortunately, when the rest of us turn to cannibalism to survive, vegetarians like @Seul will be well fed!
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An interesting article on the herd immunity debate: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615375/what-is-herd-immunity-and-can-it-stop-the-coronavirus/
I’m sure medical professionals around the world don’t have a consensus as to which models are most effective, so I’m curious how this plays out
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Even when most of the shelves are empty and people are panic-buying almost anything, the veggie stuff can't even be got rid of when it's on clearance….
Ship it to me i will take it.I Have been vegetarian since christmas i have lost almost 15 lbs just from diet change so far. I have never felt better to be honest and i also use less toilet paper
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Bacon is the only thing that i really miss
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Been watching this guys videos as well
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Even when most of the shelves are empty and people are panic-buying almost anything, the veggie stuff can't even be got rid of when it's on clearance….
We use an organic veg box delivery who have implemented rationing from day 1 of Covid 19, we are veggie and buy organic anyway, and use local shops. My last 2 shopping trips this week have been just like normal. When everything else has been cleared from the shelves, I've been able to buy the organic version with ease.
There is also an economic reality. We live in a relatively middle class area now, and the panic buying phenomena experienced by some hasn't massively hit. The local co-op has rationed essentials to the elderly first, and then limited all items to 2 per person since day 1, as such they have new stock every day. We are fortunate.
My friend works in the local independent health store, and I visited her this morning. She said that her distributors are starting to feel the pressure as people venture in to her shop and change their shopping habits.
My wife showed me some hilarious preper website that usually espouse hunt and kill and eat. Some have had an epiphany and essentially said, when shit goes down, the vegans may actually have got it right. Nuts, beans and pulses pound for pound are a way better source of energy and vitamins.
I think the bigger picture here is that it's shocking how many people don't know how to cook from scratch. I know for most IH forum members that doesn't seem to be an issue, but millenials are fucked!
