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    Graeme
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    Joined: 30 Mar 2012

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      JDelage
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      Joined: 13 Jan 2012

      @Giles:

      I'm in Japan and actually had dinner with a teacher last night.  All elementary and above state schools closed weeks ago.  For fee-paying schools, closure is currently optional.

      Excellent news.

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        JDelage
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        Joined: 13 Jan 2012

        @DougNg:

        I don’t understand what is the big deal about the testing kits.

        You have a fever, coughing, sneezing etc

        You test positive: stay home, ride it out, there is no covid19 specific treatment

        You test negative: stay home, ride it out….

        I largely agree and I've asked the same question. Two answers: (1) Presumably you would me more careful to maintain social distancing & to monitor your own situation if you have COVID-19 and (2) it's important to monitor overall numbers to better track the disease progression. The latter is probably a reason why the numbers are hard to compare from country to country.

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          JDelage
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          Joined: 13 Jan 2012

          Excellent & quick video on epidemics' exponential growth:

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            Stuart.T
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 21 Sept 2017

            I've kept away from this discussion as my wife and I work in the public sector, and our whole week has pretty much been taken away from our substantive roles, and moved to Covid 19 planning and delay.

            This changes everything, new legislation is being planned, societal behaviours are changing. New legislation will change things hugely in future.

            Stay safe and well, and importantly, don't forget we are a part of communities. Incidents like this can sadly elicit selfish responses sometimes.

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              neph93
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              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              @Stuart.T:

              ….don't forget we are a part of communities. Incidents like this can sadly elicit selfish responses sometimes.

              Well said. Some of the ridiculous behaviour I’ve seen evidence of the last few days, locally, makes me fume. Shortsighted, selfish and stupid. Public health should be first priority for everyone. That is what willend this quicker for everyone.

              On a more humourous note, there has been a bit of poorly executed «prepping» going on up my way. Panic buying struck the day the schools locked down. Not toilet paper, but butter and milk. Full fat, highly perishable butter and milk. There were also insane queues outside the wine monopoly [emoji1787]

              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

              • Dame Vera Lynn
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                Seul
                Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                Spring wine promotions start next week so we've got a whole pallet of wine for me to cherry pick in the depot… Having to take them from the shelves is for peasants!..

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                  DougNg
                  Joined: 24 Sept 2009

                  @JDelage:

                  @DougNg:

                  I don’t understand what is the big deal about the testing kits.

                  You have a fever, coughing, sneezing etc

                  You test positive: stay home, ride it out, there is no covid19 specific treatment

                  You test negative: stay home, ride it out….

                  I largely agree and I've asked the same question. Two answers: (1) Presumably you would me more careful to maintain social distancing & to monitor your own situation if you have COVID-19 and (2) it's important to monitor overall numbers to better track the disease progression. The latter is probably a reason why the numbers are hard to compare from country to country.

                  We should always have been practicing social distancing with respiratory infections and I doubt people are getting upset because they want to contribute to the epidemiological data…

                  People think that the test is a cure...

                  What a bunch of imbeciles

                  I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                    Bfd70
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                    Joined: 22 Mar 2018

                    I’d like to start hoarding IH gear. When the zombie apocalypse hits I wanna look good.

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                      DougNg
                      Joined: 24 Sept 2009

                      Been preaching that we are too dependent on others for years and people should have skills and ability to fix things, feed themselves and defend their families. Now that various systems are being taxed due to coronavirus, the same people who have looked at me like I’m a paranoid nut are asking me for tips.

                      Feels good 🙂

                      The thing about skills and abilities are that you carry them with you. If next year there is another pandemic, or a terrorist attack, or a natural disaster, the tactics change but the mindset and skills stay the same.

                      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                        steelworker
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                        Joined: 16 Apr 2014

                        This is right on  the money.  I'm always surprised (and disgusted) by  men who skip washing their hands after using the toilet, an action that should be a habit for a child.

                        Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                        Well, I have others.

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                          Stuart.T
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 21 Sept 2017

                          Oops double post… Edited

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                            Seul
                            Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                            No one out in the streets. Shop was calm in the afternoon (I started at 2PM)… Expecting a calm Sunday as well...

                            We need more viruses in our lives, if you ask me...

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                              gaseousclay
                              Joined: 4 Nov 2016

                              I’ve been hunkered down at home since yesterday. I’m gonna watch crap movies and season 3 of Star Trek: TNG [emoji868]

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                              WTB:
                              IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                              IHSH-19

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                                JDelage
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                                France is shutting down all non-essential shops. It's going to be a hard, hard time for small businesses.

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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  It already is.

                                  Our taxi driver who bought us home from Heathrow today, an immensely likable and hard-working guy of Bulgarian descent (has a degree in civil engineering, but chose to work taxis as it gives him more flexibility), has had 4 fares in the last 7 days.  He can't pay his rent….

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    DougNg
                                    Joined: 24 Sept 2009

                                    The lidl by my house looked like a hardware store selling shelving.

                                    People were upset that there’s no groceries to be bought.

                                    Some were trying to push their way into the back.

                                    Couple police officers were standing about with shopping carts, presumably to get groceries as well.

                                    Not good when those expected to keep peace and order can’t get food for their families…

                                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                      Seul
                                      Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                                      @DougNg:

                                      Some were trying to push their way into the back.

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                                        Graeme
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                                        Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                        There's an interesting thread on Twitter by someone who models pandemics.

                                        https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1238837158007447558

                                        He raises a few concerns:

                                        • The virus might fade in the late spring, but come back with a vengeance in the autumn.

                                        • We might not develop immunity after infection, meaning a lot of the strategies being promoted to handle it (herd immunity or flattening the peak of the epidemic) might not help.

                                        • There are a lot of unknowns, which makes prediction difficult.

                                        • And an economic collapse could kill more people than the virus!

                                        Meanwhile Australia has brought in travel restrictions. Everyone arriving from overseas after midnight tonight has to self-isolate for a fortnight.

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                                          Cole
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                                          Joined: 15 Apr 2014

                                          They closed all schools and daycare until the 19th of April. That means we are traped here for 5 weeks with both our kids (7 and 9). The weekens are allready tough most of the times, but 5 weeks.  😢 😢 😢

                                          WTB:
                                          IHJ-96-OLV Size L
                                          IHE-13

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