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    • DougNgD
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      Shiiiiit

      Did the coils glow from turning on other things in the room?!?

      😉

      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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      • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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        Actually both builds are about a .14 even the kanthal build from last night.

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          @Wlemon:

          I only vape when I smoke weed. The company I use it called Dossit. It's alright. Can that be used for things other than nicotine? Also, I live in California so this is all perfectly legal for me. So don't call the cops.  😃

          I thought it was mandatory in CA? 😃

          Think it, be it.

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          • DougNgD
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            Huh

            I’ve got six wraps 4mm inner diameter with 26ga Kanthal in parallel and it’s reading at .55.

            How’d you get it so low?

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            • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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              IDK… 3 mm,  7 wraps (14 wraps) x2 so 28 total wraps for both coils, 26ga Kanthal, 3500 MHA 20700 battery.

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              • DougNgD
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                Ooooh, that's what you meant by parallel

                I thought you meant dual coil in parallel

                Not dual coil EACH

                I have a couple series decks so that's probably why i was going in that direction

                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                  Yeah wrapped in parallel means 2 strands side by side. This essentially doubles the Resistance and surface area.

                  For example check out quad parallel. Worth a watch even though this guy grates on my nerves.

                  Edit: I might have doubles the Resistance wrong. Cuts in half. But 2 strands is like a double barrel shotgun. You can only pull one trigger (single strand) or pull both triggers (parallel strands).

                  Or you can go full-blown Phantasm 2 and do 4 strands.

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                  • DougNgD
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                    Yup. I get it now. You essentially have 1/4 of the resistance of 1 wire with your setup. That’s why I like series. Doubles the resistance

                    But high resistance isn’t that popular

                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                    • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                      • DougNgD
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                        Nice. Did you find coils that worked good for you?

                        I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                        • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                          I still haven't dialed it in yet. Part of the problem os that everything that performs great draws too many amps… But I did get some more kickass batteries that have a 45 amp pulse and continuous 35 amp drain that I can flirt with the .15-.2 ohm range safety. But 2 of these coils would put me at over a 40 amp drain. So single coil for now.

                          I have been eyeing some staggered framed staple coils that might work. But before I blow $20 on a pair of coils I want to try some thinner gauge ni80 in parallel, due to be delivered today. I also ordered a set of different posts with smaller terminals to facilitate easier building with thinner wire. Because the wide slot on those posts is too hard to line up properly without causing a short.

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                          • neph93N
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                            I have no idea what this thread is really about but I’m thoroughly enjoying reading it [emoji1]

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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                            • GilesG
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                              Me too…..

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                @neph93 if instead of electric current we were talking about water, and instead of wire we were talking about a hose… image how a thinner hose lets a smaller amount of water through at one time and a thicker one more... then imagine water going through one of those curly drinking straws (a coil) the more winds on your drinking straw makes if more difficult for the water to flow... this is what makes the heat in these coils. Just like an electric stove basically.

                                But, my water pump (these batteries) can only safely pump so much water at a time (or they vent and explode)... so you need to use a hose that is both thin enough and has a path of lesser resistance than the what the water pump is rated for. And you want to align as many of these little curly straws as you can to pump as much water as you can. (Those twisty coils you see pictured above).

                                -So less resistance makes more heat faster. Anything under 1.0 ohm is referred to as 'sub-ohm' vaping. And the lower the resistance the more vapor is generated. But batteries have operating parameters for draining the voltage (or they explode).

                                -Larger diameter of coil in both wire thickness and coil wraps count, and internal diameter makes more resistance, less heat.

                                -different metals have different material properties and varying resistance.

                                So basically you want to generate a massive amount of heat in the shortest amount of time, to generate the largest possible amount of vapor. But you don't want to blow your face off doing it.

                                I can explain things in even further detail, because there is soooooo much more nuance to it and I  am glossing over a lot.

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                                • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                  Here are some specifications for some wire I was checking to see of I could use as coils. I have 5 pounds worth of it. If you see the Resistance is too low. .07 and that would drain too many amps for a 3.7 volt 35 amp battery.

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    That was an excellent analogy @Filthy  thank you. Now let me ask a dumb question…. are these the portable vaping devices people carry around or something more substantial, like a fixed installation?

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                    • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                      They do have like big electronic hookahs. But the only thing I deal with fits in your pocket.

                                      Also there's ridiculous stuff like this. But I think it is supposed to be a joke.

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                                      • DougNgD
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                                        Then you have the variability of the liquid you’re using. Sweeter liquids can burn…and then there’s wicking and airflow that can affect the heat of your coil...it’s part physics and part magic I’m convinced

                                        I have a device that’s really big and heavy that has yet to leave my house. It takes four batteries (most devices take one or two) and holds 18ml of liquid (most devices only hold between 3-7).

                                        I can set it up to be obscenely powerful but mostly I like it because once it’s set up it’s good for awhile and it’s pretty hard to lose. I think I posted up a photo further up on the thread but here it is again

                                        I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                        • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                          I got fed up with juice bottles leaking in my bags. So I got a couple of these 30 ml flasks. The inside is silicone and the outside is stainless and aluminum. They are really awesome and definitely do not leak.

                                          I highly suggest them if you can find them. They are made by Geekvape.



                                          They are threaded for squonking and also have a great tip for dripping. The silicone operates effortlessly for filling because it is so soft.

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                                          • DougNgD
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                                            I use an EZ Dripper

                                            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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