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    IH-555-XHSib - 25oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Jeans - Indigo/Black

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    • majkelM
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      My thoughts on the jeans; I always glanced over people saying the buttons were difficult  😃 boy oh boy they took me 15 mins with pliers and I have no plans of unbuttoning the bottom button. The rise on this is perfect. The combination of the slimness AND the thickness require that much room I believe. Restrictive when sitting upright in a chair, but that's getting a lot better on my 3rd day of wear. At first I wasn't convinced it was actually indigo hahah. I can't wait to see this contrast. Although I'm not sure what the non-fading black weft entails.

      In my state of VA we get a lot of humidity in the summer but I'll try to tough it out like the incredible Indonesians & their amazing fades. I work in a welding/fabrication shop so these are liable to get burn holes on the first day so they'll be evening and weekend pants. I might relegate my older denims to the shop in time.


      I'm realizing my s8 isn't taking the greatest photos  😢

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      • KasiK
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        @majkel:

        Hey guys and girls of the IH forum. I'm Michael & new to IH jeans & somewhat new to raw denim (a few months). I know buying these right now is sort of like getting a face tattoo as your first tattoo, but I'm the type that goes deep when I get into a new hobby. I got my IH-555-XHSib's last thurs and I'd like some opinions based on my fit photos. Is the length look good? Does this fabric shrink a lot with just cold water? I feel like I can't afford much shrinkage but I am noticing its stretching out comfortably

        My dog is lurking harder than I was before I made an acc for this forum lol

        You will lose one inches in length at the most and some in the waist and tight put they will stretch back to post size.

        What is u want

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        • KasiK
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          @majkel:

          My thoughts on the jeans; I always glanced over people saying the buttons were difficult  😃 boy oh boy they took me 15 mins with pliers and I have no plans of unbuttoning the bottom button. The rise on this is perfect. The combination of the slimness AND the thickness require that much room I believe. Restrictive when sitting upright in a chair, but that's getting a lot better on my 3rd day of wear. At first I wasn't convinced it was actually indigo hahah. I can't wait to see this contrast. Although I'm not sure what the non-fading black weft entails.

          In my state of VA we get a lot of humidity in the summer but I'll try to tough it out like the incredible Indonesians & their amazing fades. I work in a welding/fabrication shop so these are liable to get burn holes on the first day so they'll be evening and weekend pants. I might relegate my older denims to the shop in time.


          I'm realizing my s8 isn't taking the greatest photos  😢

          You will learn as u go along over the time passes

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          The world's insane
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          • neph93N
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            @majkel that looks like a great fit. They may be a little uncomfortable after a hot soak but they should stretch back out again. I’d advise a hot soak straight away to get the shrinkage put, but it is up to you.

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            Are the same that burn crosses”

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            • DionD
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              Not cool to quote pics all the time, though.

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              • xtcclassicX
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                @majkel I echo what neph said, the fit looks good. They’ll soften up and mold themselves to your body a bit with wear and look even better. It takes a while, but it will happen.

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                • majkelM
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                  Thanks for the feedback dudes. My only concern being fade shifting later on, would it be silly to just hot soak everything except the top block since the top block will stretch back out anyways?

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                  • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                    No, I do partial soaks to stuff all the time. Use the hottest water possible and soak for as long as possible. For example I soaked mine for 5 hours and I changed the hot water 3 times to keep it hot.

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                    • KasiK
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                      @Filthy:

                      No, I do partial soaks to stuff all the time. Use the hottest water possible and soak for as long as possible. For example I soaked mine for 5 hours and I changed the hot water 3 times to keep it hot.

                      Everyone’s have their own ways own rules

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                      • alexswordsA
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                        @majkel hey man denims look great. You'll quickly learn that everyone has their own opinion or strategy for wearing and breaking in jeans. Having tried a number of different methods of soaking or not soaking sanforized and unsanforized it really is just trial and error/hoping for the best or first educating yourself about the different outcomes from people who have been down that road before. If you decide to soak your 555xhsib you probably wont get a whole lot of shrinkage as the denim is sanforized and also an incredibly tight weave. if you hot washed the shit out of them you might see a noticeable amount but they'll also be a different denim at that point. what i mean by that is when they're brand new they loaded with starch and have that shiny tank like feel but the more you soak or wash that starch dissipates and the denim becomes softer and more pliable. Some prefer this softer feel and some prefer the tank like stiff feel. There is no right or wrong way in that regard. Soaking or washing will help set all the stitching and help get all the shrinkage out but with sanforized denim you won't see a ton of shift in your fade patterns if you decide not to soak or wash right off the bat.. I tend to buy denim as tight as i can possibly stand so that when they do stretch out they'll be at that sweetspot fit.. I couldn't wear my 555xhsib for more than an hour for almost a week, but now they're fitting comfortably and and only getting better. Just have fun and ask lots of questions and please keep us updated on they're progress!!

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                          Very well said. Great post.

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                          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                            @Kasi:

                            @Filthy:

                            No, I do partial soaks to stuff all the time. Use the hottest water possible and soak for as long as possible. For example I soaked mine for 5 hours and I changed the hot water 3 times to keep it hot.

                            Everyone’s have their own ways own rules

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                            Should have said, no it would not be silly to do a partial soak. But I was just saying it is okay to hot soak and okay to partial soak…. to get the kind of crisp fades that I am seeking. I have ruined at least 4 pairs of jeans following other piecemeal advice about washing and stuff. But if you ask 50 people you'll get 50 different answers. Generally speaking soaking in any temperature  water without any kind of agitation is totally okay.

                            Also the "starch" Alex swords is talking about is actually sizing they use to make the fibers slippery. But you can use heavy starch to get the stiffness back if you wanna. (Spray the inside of the jeans because it appears chalky white).

                            https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7734.msg577536#msg577536

                            https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7385.msg510987#msg510987

                            https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6774.msg403443#msg403443

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                            • majkelM
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                              @alexswords I appreciate the time you took to write this! I feel lucky to have these. They're insanely unique & I loved everything about the ironheart experience. The ogling of the web store.. researching the fabrics & their fades.. breaking out the tailor's tape and measuring to find my fit.. the friendly back & forth emails with the staff.. anticipation.. and pay off.

                              I went with a warm to hot soak for 30 mins & you were right.. barely any differences apart from more stiffness that is softening up quickly right now. These will remain dry for a long time as I do oddly enjoy the rigidity of these. And fit wise I think I'm in a similar boat as you. Will you commit yours to cold water? That's what I'm considering.

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                              • tvenutoT
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                                Indeed there are no denim police to come nab you for doing whatever you like.  I, for instance, cut the leather patch off of all of my jeans.  However, when asking for advice "do what you want" is a flip and unhelpful answer, so I'll chime in with my experience:

                                I really wouldn't be afraid to hot soak these, if they're not skin tight to start with I don't think you'll run into any issues.  I got noticeable shrinkage but they relaxed back quite quickly, even with me not wearing them for a week they seemed to relax on the hook.  I actually thought they were more comfortable after the hot soak, even though they were a bit more "form fitting."  I'm very glad I did the hot wash, and I'm very much in the camp of not liking tight pants.

                                For my first wash I'm going to do a tub soak with moderate agitation by hand.  I usually don't go to any lengths to preserve fading but I get the feeling that these will still be pretty crunchy and will be very susceptible to strange creasing patterns from the washer itself.

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                                • KasiK
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                                  @Filthy:

                                  @Kasi:

                                  @Filthy:

                                  No, I do partial soaks to stuff all the time. Use the hottest water possible and soak for as long as possible. For example I soaked mine for 5 hours and I changed the hot water 3 times to keep it hot.

                                  Everyone’s have their own ways own rules

                                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                  Should have said, no it would not be silly to do a partial soak. But I was just saying it is okay to hot soak and okay to partial soak…. to get the kind of crisp fades that I am seeking. I have ruined at least 4 pairs of jeans following other piecemeal advice about washing and stuff. But if you ask 50 people you'll get 50 different answers. Generally speaking soaking in any temperature  water without any kind of agitation is totally okay.

                                  Also the "starch" Alex swords is talking about is actually sizing they use to make the fibers slippery. But you can use heavy starch to get the stiffness back if you wanna. (Spray the inside of the jeans because it appears chalky white).

                                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7734.msg577536#msg577536

                                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7385.msg510987#msg510987

                                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6774.msg403443#msg403443

                                  Well said… like the pictures

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                                  • majkelM
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                                    @Filthy:

                                    @Kasi:

                                    @Filthy:

                                    No, I do partial soaks to stuff all the time. Use the hottest water possible and soak for as long as possible. For example I soaked mine for 5 hours and I changed the hot water 3 times to keep it hot.

                                    Everyone’s have their own ways own rules

                                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                    Should have said, no it would not be silly to do a partial soak. But I was just saying it is okay to hot soak and okay to partial soak…. to get the kind of crisp fades that I am seeking. I have ruined at least 4 pairs of jeans following other piecemeal advice about washing and stuff. But if you ask 50 people you'll get 50 different answers. Generally speaking soaking in any temperature  water without any kind of agitation is totally okay.

                                    Also the "starch" Alex swords is talking about is actually sizing they use to make the fibers slippery. But you can use heavy starch to get the stiffness back if you wanna. (Spray the inside of the jeans because it appears chalky white).

                                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7734.msg577536#msg577536

                                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7385.msg510987#msg510987

                                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6774.msg403443#msg403443

                                    50 different answers and the same love for the fabric  🙂
                                    Its always best to learn from people who learned the hard way too lol.
                                    Thats interesting stuff man

                                    insta: @majkelhimself

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                                    • majkelM
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                                      @tvenuto:

                                      Indeed there are no denim police to come nab you for doing whatever you like.  I, for instance, cut the leather patch off of all of my jeans.  However, when asking for advice "do what you want" is a flip and unhelpful answer, so I'll chime in with my experience:

                                      I really wouldn't be afraid to hot soak these, if they're not skin tight to start with I don't think you'll run into any issues.  I got noticeable shrinkage but they relaxed back quite quickly, even with me not wearing them for a week they seemed to relax on the hook.  I actually thought they were more comfortable after the hot soak, even though they were a bit more "form fitting."  I'm very glad I did the hot wash, and I'm very much in the camp of not liking tight pants.

                                      For my first wash I'm going to do a tub soak with moderate agitation by hand.  I usually don't go to any lengths to preserve fading but I get the feeling that these will still be pretty crunchy and will be very susceptible to strange creasing patterns from the washer itself.

                                      Ahh they did relax without wearing them? I was gonna ask about methods for getting any unfavorable creases out and how long those creases come out naturally. Unfortunately, logically understanding "wabi sabi" isn't enough to diminish my ocd tendencies  😃

                                      insta: @majkelhimself

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                                      • tvenutoT
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                                        I think the best method is to wait until the denim has softened with wear before machine washing to minimize the probability of meaningful creasing in the wash. The whole “wear as long as possible” bit. Another is to make sure the denim is fully waterlogged before the actual agitation starts, which I think helps.

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                                        • alexswordsA
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                                          Out here tryin' to keep this thread alive. I need to see more updates!!!

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                                            And so it begins. I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to pull them off solo if I were wearing them in the tub. The amount of honeycombs on the inside surprised me a bit.

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