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    • I
      IronMan
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      What do you suggest me between those?

      • Sugarcane SC42009 12oz Denim 1947 Model Type-II

      • 3sixteen 12oz SL-101x

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      • gaseousclayG
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        @IronMan:

        What do you suggest me between those?

        • Sugarcane SC42009 12oz Denim 1947 Model Type-II

        • 3sixteen 12oz SL-101x

        I don’t have experience with SC but 3sixteen makes good denim. I have their st cut and sl cut and like them both.

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        WTB:
        IHSH-129 size L (blue)
        IHSH-19

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        • popvultureP
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          @Chris:

          I live in Texas and wear 21 oz IH-634S jeans year round, even in the summer.  In Texas summers, they're far more comfortable than the 18 oz IH-634SII I'm wearing right now.

          And if appfaff says try the 14 oz denim, then that's reputable advice…

          I'm also in TX with these same two denims (albeit 555 and 666) and can confirm that this is indeed true.

          WTB
          IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
          Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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          • manufc10M
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            @IronMan:

            What do you suggest me between those?

            • Sugarcane SC42009 12oz Denim 1947 Model Type-II

            • 3sixteen 12oz SL-101x

            I'm with @gaseousclay on this one, I dont own any Sugarcane denim so I can't comment on that.  All I can say is that I highly recommend the 3sixteen.

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            • manufc10M
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              For what it's worth @IronMan I live in Phoenix so I have experience with raw denim in extremely high temps.

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                @manufc10:

                For what it's worth @IronMan I live in Phoenix so I have experience with raw denim in extremely high temps.

                Got it mate. I have pretty much taken a decision here thanks to your good hints and will go after a 12 oz 3sixteen for best summer usage along with a IH 14oz to use all along the seasons

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                • AppfaffA
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                  If humidity is your game, I still suggest the 142 denim in 634 cut.

                  I deal with pretty much daily rain and close to 100% humidity from March through October.

                  And the fades are beautiful like the 21oz.

                  3:16 and SC make great jeans, but they are not on  par with the perfectionist detailing and construction you see on IH.

                  That is simply my opinion though, and not designed to start discussion on such.

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                    @Appfaff:

                    If humidity is your game, I still suggest the 142 denim in 634 cut.

                    I deal with pretty much daily rain and close to 100% humidity from March through October.

                    And the fades are beautiful like the 21oz.

                    3:16 and SC make great jeans, but they are not on  par with the perfectionist detailing and construction you see on IH.

                    That is simply my opinion though, and not designed to start discussion on such.

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                    yeah i think i made a decision here:

                    1- 3sixteen 12 oz for some lighter jeans and alternative choice along summer

                    2- IH-633 14 oz (the one sold at self edge) to use all along the year and during summer too. I think those would be my best deal as the 634 have too large legs opening for my specs.

                    3- Samurai s710xx 19 oz for cold weather

                    and maybe many others in the future… i am starting to get addicted here  ::)

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                    • AppfaffA
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                      Those looks like great choices. Enjoy and update is on the fits 🙂

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                        @Appfaff:

                        Those looks like great choices. Enjoy and update is on the fits 🙂

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                        Sure thing

                        i see you have the 777 cut of these and fits great on you. How does the denim behave? does it shrink back a bit after washes?

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                        • manufc10M
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                          @IronMan:

                          @Appfaff:

                          If humidity is your game, I still suggest the 142 denim in 634 cut.

                          I deal with pretty much daily rain and close to 100% humidity from March through October.

                          And the fades are beautiful like the 21oz.

                          3:16 and SC make great jeans, but they are not on  par with the perfectionist detailing and construction you see on IH.

                          That is simply my opinion though, and not designed to start discussion on such.

                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                          yeah i think i made a decision here:

                          1- 3sixteen 12 oz for some lighter jeans and alternative choice along summer

                          2- IH-633 14 oz (the one sold at self edge) to use all along the year and during summer too. I think those would be my best deal as the 634 have too large legs opening for my specs.

                          3- Samurai s710xx 19 oz for cold weather

                          and maybe many others in the future… i am starting to get addicted here  ::)

                          I think that's a great decision you've made there.  Perfect strategy.

                          @Appfaff I don't think anyone's going to argue that IH quality is better than 3sixteen but this recommendation is strictly based on a pair that's most comfortable in hot weather.  If IH made a 12oz denim jean I'm sure that would be my recommendation 😉

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                          • AppfaffA
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                            Very true manufc

                            iron man - they snug up in the wash for sure, but I am Active enough in them that they stretch back in 3-4 days.

                            Hope that helps!

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                              @Appfaff:

                              Very true manufc

                              iron man - they snug up in the wash for sure, but I am Active enough in them that they stretch back in 3-4 days.

                              Hope that helps!

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                              Nice! Thanks for the info bud  🙂

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                              • gaseousclayG
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                                @manufc10:

                                I personally prefer the ST cut (slim tapered) which would maybe be closest to the 777 IH cut, then the CT cut (classic tapered) would probably be closest to the 888 IH cut.

                                Coincidentally, I measured my 3sixteen SL-120x's last night and i'd say that is pretty close to the new 777-142 cut. The SL series is 3sixteen's slim straight and initially I wasn't a big fan of the fit, but over the last 5 yrs i've gone back and forth with slim tapered fits and slim straight fits. My SL-120x's size 34 measure 35" waist, 12.5" thigh, 8.5" knee and 8" hem (hemmed to 31").

                                WTB:
                                IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                IHSH-19

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                                  @gaseousclay:

                                  @manufc10:

                                  I personally prefer the ST cut (slim tapered) which would maybe be closest to the 777 IH cut, then the CT cut (classic tapered) would probably be closest to the 888 IH cut.

                                  Coincidentally, I measured my 3sixteen SL-120x's last night and i'd say that is pretty close to the new 777-142 cut. The SL series is 3sixteen's slim straight and initially I wasn't a big fan of the fit, but over the last 5 yrs i've gone back and forth with slim tapered fits and slim straight fits. My SL-120x's size 34 measure 35" waist, 12.5" thigh, 8.5" knee and 8" hem (hemmed to 31").

                                  Yeah I've considered trying the SL (straight leg) fit.  The measurements look pretty good.  IIRC I believe it has a higher rise than the ST (slim tapered) fit.

                                  EDIT: I think the 3sixteen SL fit is pretty close to Rogue Territory's Stanton fit which is also a great cut.  This is strictly anecdotal and going by feel as I haven't actually compared measurements though.

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                                  • gaseousclayG
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                                    @manufc10:

                                    EDIT: I think the 3sixteen SL fit is pretty close to Rogue Territory's Stanton fit which is also a great cut.  This is strictly anecdotal and going by feel as I haven't actually compared measurements though.

                                    I never really "got" RgT. I used to have their waxed canvas Ridgeline jacket which was a perfectly fine jacket, but I sold it awhile ago and haven't looked back. I can't quite put my finger on it but none of their stuff really appeals to me. I think 3sixteen is the only US brand that I really like that consistently puts out good stuff.

                                    WTB:
                                    IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                    IHSH-19

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                                    • manufc10M
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                                      @gaseousclay:

                                      @manufc10:

                                      EDIT: I think the 3sixteen SL fit is pretty close to Rogue Territory's Stanton fit which is also a great cut.  This is strictly anecdotal and going by feel as I haven't actually compared measurements though.

                                      I never really "got" RgT. I used to have their waxed canvas Ridgeline jacket which was a perfectly fine jacket, but I sold it awhile ago and haven't looked back. I can't quite put my finger on it but none of their stuff really appeals to me. I think 3sixteen is the only US brand that I really like that consistently puts out good stuff.

                                      I definitely prefer 3sixteen over RgT and I agree that 3sixteen is the best US brand out there right now, but RgT does put out some nice stuff here and there.  They had some great releases this Fall/Winter.

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                                      • ChrisC
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                                        Would you consider Mr. Freedom an American brand?  I ask, because I'm not sure I would.

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                                          @Chris:

                                          Would you consider Mr. Freedom an American brand?  I ask, because I'm not sure I would.

                                          hmmm….not really sure.  Either way it's irrelevant for me because I can honestly say I don't think I've seen a single item from Mr. Freedom that I would buy.

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                                          • gaseousclayG
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                                            @Chris:

                                            Would you consider Mr. Freedom an American brand?  I ask, because I'm not sure I would.

                                            I'm not sure either. The owner is a French ex-pat based in the US and his stuff is made by Toyo. I like some of MF's outwear pieces but it's unlikely i'd buy anything from them. Their prices are a lot higher than IH too so that doesn't help.

                                            WTB:
                                            IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                            IHSH-19

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