What do you want to see from Iron Heart Racing?
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Maybe I don't get out much, but in the 13 years that I have been involved with Iron Heart. Apart from Iron Heart arranged parties/get togethers/events, I have only seen one person wearing Iron Heart in the wild and that was in Japan 4 years ago.
For me @Giles saw a guy at a Bruce Springsteen concert at Hershey PA. wearing IH 301s. Also saw a guy wearing Flat Head jeans at the King of Prussia mall.
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I disagree with most of what Ranchhand is saying, but I also disagree that he’s being a troll. His opinion may not be a popular one, but he’s not being unreasonable about making his points. It’s his opinion, and he obviously has concerns about the brand which at least to him are valid concerns. And they’re coming from a perspective of wanting to keep the brand pure and focused on what drew him to the brand to begin with, so it’s not like he’s hating on the brand. Let’s not all jump all over him for expressing his opinion just because we disagree. Just my two cents…
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I disagree with most of what Ranchhand is saying, but I also disagree that he’s being a troll. His opinion may not be a popular one, but he’s not being unreasonable about making his points.
Just my two cents…
Everyone’s entitled to their two cents, without a doubt. I’m not sure he’s trolling either, in the sense that he’s deliberately trying to upset people, but he is by defintion being unreasonable. That is to say his opinions lack reasoning and don’t really stand up to reasoned argument.
Initially he was challenged on some of his opinions, in a reasonable way. He’s doubled down and started making quite unreasonable statements.
I suggest we all leave it alone now. Show’s over. The thread has been derailed slightly and is supposed to about what we hope to see, or might see from IHR, not about whether IHR is a good idea or not.
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@Ranchhand you are trolling big time.
Close the outlet, selfedge & rivet & hide are hurting IH.
Get the fuck outta here.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Here Here! GTFO. Glad I missed this yesterday as I was pissed all
Day and would have def said some things i regret.Bitter.. Table for ONE.
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Oops sorry @neph93 I didn’t see your post before I replied.
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Sorry Giles.
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If Ranchhand has a point, it'd be to target more than just Harley riders. I think that the Iron Heart Racing aesthetic could fit into the wider retro / custom scene, and I could see the gear working on my Thruxton.
I'd like to see more technical gear from Iron Heart Racing, that offers protection as well as aesthetics. The trouble with that is armour really throws off the line of a jacket.
One option would be to build it around an armoured shirt. Knox have a layering system, where a jacket has a zip in the armpits and down the side to resize it when you don't need protection.
Dyneema denim might be another thing to consider. Saint in Melbourne do a range. But I'm not sure how hard it'd be to get your workshops to adapt.
Incidentally, I really like the kinda Type III jacket that was posted on Instagram. I'm tempted by that one.
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I think that the Iron Heart Racing aesthetic could fit into the wider retro / custom scene, and I could see the gear working on my Thruxton.
I think that's a good point actually. I don't know how hard this will be marketed directly at HD riders (young or old) or if that is just a catch all phrase for bikers who want a certain type of aesthetic with their clothes. I doubt riding a Harley and being young is a pre-requisite for the sort of style IHR will capture.
On another note, I'm also increasingly getting the impression that this is a West Coast thing.
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@neph93 my round town riding gear consists of a Rev'it Fargo jacket and Rockefeller jeans, with a pair of TCX Fuel Gore Tex boots.
I could see a Harley rider wearing similar gear. They'd probably swap the jacket out for something a bit more black, maybe wear an open-face helmet, and probably add skulls and flames.
I don't know how well Harley are capturing younger riders. Something like the new Fat Bob is more likely to appeal to a twenty or thirty something than their usual demographic. But I also suspect that a Thruxton, Ducati Scrambler, or R nineT would be more desirable again.
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I think they’re using Harley Davidson as a “catch all” term, rather than a specifically narrowed demographic. I’m sure the appeal will stretch to the retro, chopper, low rider and possibly even classic cafe racer and touring bike enthusiasts.
Unless it was only marketed in HD dealerships and publications, or had some HD branding, I fail to see how it would not.
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The OD zippered type 3 makes me reconsider my dislike of that jacket style, so good.
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@Megatron1505 It is rather good. Seeing the type III vest represents the first time I haven’t felt bad about owning the “Sonny” vest since I knew it existed. It now seems like it was meant to be…
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I think they’re using Harley Davidson as a “catch all” term, rather than a specifically narrowed demographic. I’m sure the appeal will stretch to the retro, chopper, low rider and possibly even classic cafe racer and touring bike enthusiasts.
Unless it was only marketed in HD dealerships and publications, or had some HD branding, I fail to see how it would not.
Thank you, that is what I tried to say before the little Excourse, the Riders I know dress all the same more or less, without connection to their preferd Bike Brand. Younger HD Rider means to me that the All Leather Bodysuit Hayabusa guy isn´t the aimed pear Group.
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Which is what leads me to think that IHR and IHI are aiming for the same sort of customer base in the US that IH already serves in Japan.
My point was more that the marketing should aim to be more inclusive, than just saying, "It's clothing for Harley riders." Motorcyclists can be quite tribal.
So does anyone want to take bets on how long it'll take @neph93 to buy the vest?
