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    IHSH-295-BB - 14oz Selvedge Denim Western Shirt - Black/Black

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    • rovdjurstorgetR
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      I'm waiting for this beauty of a shirt to be restocked in my size XL, but I'm at the same time wondering if I should go for a lighter black shirt, like the:

      IHSH-218-BLK - 12oz Western Shirt "Johnny Cash" Black

      or the

      IHSH-235-BLK - 13oz Military Serge Western Shirt Black

      The reason for this is that I currently have Indigoferas 14oz Copeland shirt in Gunpowder black, and as much as I love it, it doesn't get the wear I'd like to give it. It's more of an overshirt than an actual shirt.

      My question is, is this 14 oz fabric wearable as an actual shirt? Or is it more like a jacket?

      Do any of you have any experience with my 2 other options? And what's the main difference between the military serge shirt (235-BLK western) and the Johnny Cash black (218-BLK western)? Is it just the 12 vs 13 oz difference?

      Sorry for so many questions, I'm really curious to know if there's a design difference on a "military serge western shirt" and the other two western options.

      Jeans: 555-01 21, 666s 21, 777s 21, BS69xSOP420 (777 SBG)
      Shirts: IHSH-196, IHSH 21 BLU, IHSH-264 NAV, IHSH-130 GB, IHSH 33-Indigo, IHSH-295 BB
      Accessories: IHG-051-BLK, Brass-W10

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      • John GaltJ
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        I have both the 14oz westerns - the IB & BB - and wear both of them as shirts and I tuck them.  I have all the varieties of the 33’s (12oz) including the JC and now rarely wear them and have the 14oz in regular rotation.  It’s hard to go back to 12oz after wearing the 14oz.  Hoping IH releases some more variations of the 14oz westerns in the future.

        No one’s happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.

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        • rovdjurstorgetR
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          Thanks, JG 🙂 That sounds really good. I'm all for heavy fabrics, and even tucking in (sometimes) as long as it's practical and wearable.

          I wish we had more Iron Heart stockists here in Sweden to be able to try and compare different options. At least we have Blackways/Bad Weather Cafe down in Malmö, and as good as they are, they understandably don't carry the widest selection of Iron Heart products.

          Jeans: 555-01 21, 666s 21, 777s 21, BS69xSOP420 (777 SBG)
          Shirts: IHSH-196, IHSH 21 BLU, IHSH-264 NAV, IHSH-130 GB, IHSH 33-Indigo, IHSH-295 BB
          Accessories: IHG-051-BLK, Brass-W10

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          • T4920T
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            @rovdjurstorget:

            Do any of you have any experience with my 2 other options? And what's the main difference between the military serge shirt (235-BLK western) and the Johnny Cash black (218-BLK western)? Is it just the 12 vs 13 oz difference?

            I'm far from an expert so excuse my crude description, but the best way I can describe the serge fabric is that it's stiffer to begin with but quickly breaks in. You'll also find that the diagonal ridges formed by the twill are much more prominent.

            In the most literal sense, it reminds me of a crinkle cut chip/crisp  😃

            “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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            • OaktaviaO
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              @rovdjurstorget:

              My question is, is this 14 oz fabric wearable as an actual shirt? Or is it more like a jacket?

              I have the 14oz ib and bb and will say that they are heavy and take breaking in at first. After about 50 wears they feel more like shirts and less like jackets. Especially the bb, it is a lot to wear when new. It just takes time to soften and break the fabric and from there it is awesome. I wear both as shirts.

              IG: electricindigowizard

              "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

              WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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              • rovdjurstorgetR
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                @T4920:

                the best way I can describe the serge fabric is that it's stiffer to begin with but quickly breaks in. You'll also find that the diagonal ridges formed by the twill are much more prominent.

                In the most literal sense, it reminds me of a crinkle cut chip/crisp  😃

                haha, exactly. I was wondering if the serge shirt perhaps looked a bit like the kersey shirts that also have the chip/crisp ridge.

                From the sound of all your experiences it sounds like the 14oz breaks in good. 🙂 Now I just need to wait for an XL restock.

                Jeans: 555-01 21, 666s 21, 777s 21, BS69xSOP420 (777 SBG)
                Shirts: IHSH-196, IHSH 21 BLU, IHSH-264 NAV, IHSH-130 GB, IHSH 33-Indigo, IHSH-295 BB
                Accessories: IHG-051-BLK, Brass-W10

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                • T4920T
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                  @rovdjurstorget:

                  haha, exactly. I was wondering if the serge shirt perhaps looked a bit like the kersey shirts that also have the chip/crisp ridge.

                  I'd say the Kersey sits between Serge and Corduroy, and is much softer and stretchier than the Serge from the start.

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                  “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                  • DmartD
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                    @Oaktavia:

                    @rovdjurstorget:

                    My question is, is this 14 oz fabric wearable as an actual shirt? Or is it more like a jacket?

                    I have the 14oz ib and bb and will say that they are heavy and take breaking in at first. After about 50 wears they feel more like shirts and less like jackets. Especially the bb, it is a lot to wear when new. It just takes time to soften and break the fabric and from there it is awesome. I wear both as shirts.

                    I can confirm. At first it’s more like a jacket feel but it softens up eventually after a good amount of wear. I wore mine a lot lately and it just starts to get softer.

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                    • rovdjurstorgetR
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                      Thanks for the feedback, it sounds like a good amount of work before it pays off. I'm in.😊

                      As for shrinkage, should I expect a couple of cm's/inch?

                      Jeans: 555-01 21, 666s 21, 777s 21, BS69xSOP420 (777 SBG)
                      Shirts: IHSH-196, IHSH 21 BLU, IHSH-264 NAV, IHSH-130 GB, IHSH 33-Indigo, IHSH-295 BB
                      Accessories: IHG-051-BLK, Brass-W10

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                      • DmartD
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                        Never washed mine so can’t comment. @Oaktavia might be able to provide with info.

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                        • nytimes_gaidenN
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                          I lost some weight since getting the XXL so I gave mine a good soak and washed it on hot - it tightened up exactly how I wanted taking it in a bit on the sleeves and shoulders and bringing it in a smidge on the sides restoring the taper through the torso. No marbling either. It feels a lot firmer now and bunches a little bit in the arm pits but I think that will sort itself out as it breaks in and softens with wear. I didn’t measure before though so I can’t provide exact numbers but the vibe is good.

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                          • OaktaviaO
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                            To echo @nytimes_gaiden I recall the shirt being a little big on me before the first wash. Shrunk in all the right places but just a tad.

                            IG: electricindigowizard

                            "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                            WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                            • OaktaviaO
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                              IG: electricindigowizard

                              "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                              WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                              • Jcaz6996J
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                                Nice Steve looking 🔥mate ..

                                IG : @luvthefades

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                                • OaktaviaO
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                                  Thanks dude I've been wearing it as much as possible…only change into different shirts for work so I don't teach in the same shirt everyday. Been wearing it to bed when my wife is away for work too. Really starting to shed black dye like crazy. Couple of early washes I think accelerated the dye loss.

                                  IG: electricindigowizard

                                  "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                  WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                                  • T
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                                    Had a great day in Maryland today.

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                                    • OaktaviaO
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                                      Heck yeah dude glad you enjoyed my home state. Fit looks excellent too!

                                      IG: electricindigowizard

                                      "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                      WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                                      • rovdjurstorgetR
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                                        Incredible. That's a beautiful thing. Too bad there are no XL's left in stock.

                                        I'll just put away 1000 SEK (swedish crowns) every month until this thing is available in my size.

                                        Will it take 3 long months perhaps? More/Less? Who cares, as long as it restocks sometime soon.  😉

                                        @Oaktavia:

                                        Jeans: 555-01 21, 666s 21, 777s 21, BS69xSOP420 (777 SBG)
                                        Shirts: IHSH-196, IHSH 21 BLU, IHSH-264 NAV, IHSH-130 GB, IHSH 33-Indigo, IHSH-295 BB
                                        Accessories: IHG-051-BLK, Brass-W10

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                                        • OaktaviaO
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                                          74 wears @AdamJ

                                          IG: electricindigowizard

                                          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                          WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                                          • ?
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                                            @Oaktavia amazing fades!

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