IHSH-332-SAX - Ultra Heavy Flannel Anniversary Check Western Shirt - Sax
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From the IHSH-01 thread https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=440.0 there is a lot of trying to figure out the differences/similarities/versions of the 01 and the 04. Even Giles says he doesn't remember all the details, but it looks like they figure out the main thing is the 01 has the old white neck tag and no chest emblem, and the 04 has the modern black Iron Heart neck tag and a chest emblem. But it sure looks like it was the same shirt and fabric right?
I'd assume that they just did a second run of the shirt and didn't predict that madmen like us would even notice that they weren't 100% identical.
Correct on the chest label and neck tab, but did Haraki find a mill that could run 12oz fabric for the 04? A question we might never know unless the Boss himself remembers.
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Like @Tobi I also visited Brund at opening hour. I ordered the 634 anni from the site last night but wanted to try on the shirt and glad I did. This is Large. I’m a happy boy. Cheers. Peter [emoji1690][emoji41][emoji482]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Yepp! That looks great! Very versatile color way.
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Some more shots…
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It's arrived and I couldn't be happier!
Sized up to an XL as per the general consensus on UHFs. Was a little concerned about the sleeve length but considering I bought this as a cosy winter warmer, I'm gonna consider it a feature! Nobody wants cold wrists anyway, do they!?Sent from my KB2003 using Tapatalk
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It's arrived and I couldn't be happier!
Sized up to an XL as per the general consensus on UHFs. Was a little concerned about the sleeve length but considering I bought this as a cosy winter warmer, I'm gonna consider it a feature! Nobody wants cold wrists anyway, do they!?Sent from my KB2003 using Tapatalk
I don't believe there is a general consensus to size up on UHFs. I've always worn the same size in UHFs as all my other shirts.
But I'm glad you're happy with the fit.
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It's arrived and I couldn't be happier!
Sized up to an XL as per the general consensus on UHFs. Was a little concerned about the sleeve length but considering I bought this as a cosy winter warmer, I'm gonna consider it a feature! Nobody wants cold wrists anyway, do they!?Sent from my KB2003 using Tapatalk
I don't believe there is a general consensus to size up on UHFs. I've always worn the same size in UHFs as all my other shirts.
But I'm glad you're happy with the fit.
Ah fair enough! I'm quite new here but I swear I've seen the advice to size up numerous time. Either way, I love the shirt/fit [emoji1362]
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The general "size up" recommendation definitely depends on what the "normal size" garment you're comparing it to is, but I definitely find it to be true.
I'd say the average person often finds themselves in between two American sizes. You generally consider yourself a medium, in things like the average Target-brand t-shirt, but there are brands here and there where a medium is weird in the chest/armpits so you need a large? Well then an Iron Heart shirt is likely to need to be a size large for you (as it is for me), and some people even go up to an XL for an even looser chest in some models.
But there are definitely folks who already are wearing generously sized (what my wife calls dad-fit) flannels that almost fit like a comfy oversized blanket? Like when I wear an LL Bean non-slim fit large, well an Iron Heart large might be a great fit for them. And they wouldn't consider that "sizing down" or "sizing up."
And as Giles would definitely say, read the measurement charts, trust the measurement charts. I like to make sure the shoulders are where I need, and that the sleeves are long enough. The wrist opening are narrow enough that longer sleeves don't cause problems because they don't slip over my hands.
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99% of sizing is absolute crap when you are comparing different companies and their sizing methods. Saying that I wear XL in Filson so that I should get XXL in Iron Heart is an absolute disaster when choosing and picking sizes.
I completely agree with the statement about reading the measurement charts. I've bought quite a bit of IH clothing and still refer to the charts for every (and I mean every) purchase.
The absolute best way to pick the right size is to:
- Find a garment that you own and love the fit of.
- Measure that garment exactly the same way that Iron Heart measures their clothing
- Compare your measurements to those of the item of interest
- When and if you have questions email the shop: shop@ironheart.co.uk
- Sometimes mistakes are made or you may not be happy with a fit. You can post pictures and we can offer advice and if that doesn't work, the return policy of Iron Heart makes it easy to return or exchange products (unless altered).
It takes work, but it has always worked for me in the end…
My $.02
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Probably for a general thread, though curious to know what denotes the sleeve length. Why such differences across UHF's. Is it a technical limitation with fabric or weave or more a preference when designed. I realise in this instance it may be to be true to the original but always wondered why so many differ.
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99% of sizing is absolute crap when you are comparing different companies and their sizing methods. Saying that I wear XL in Filson so that I should get XXL in Iron Heart is an absolute disaster when choosing and picking sizes….
Exactly this. Size chart all things.
Im a MEDIUM in Filson "vintage flannels"; Iron Heart western…XXXL !!!
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I don't believe there is a general consensus to size up on UHFs. I've always worn the same size in UHFs as all my other shirts.
For the record, I automatically assumed that you meant to size up with respect to other IH shirts. And by all my other shirts, I meant all my other IH shirts. It didn't even cross my mind that you were considering non-IH shirts. I've only bought IH shirts for at least the last 5 years. I guess that shows what kind of bubble I'm living in
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Probably for a general thread, though curious to know what denotes the sleeve length. Why such differences across UHF's. Is it a technical limitation with fabric or weave or more a preference when designed. I realise in this instance it may be to be true to the original but always wondered why so many differ.
One reason that has been given for the variation is that the fabric reacts differently to the dyes of the various colors.
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@waXology I think the only people who would be able to answer this question is @Giles @Alex or Haraki.
The longer sleeves in the past was a purposed design in regards to riding motorcycles and sleeves riding up as you ride.
Fortunately, the UHF sleeves have increased in length over the years. The early ones, such as the IHSH-32 and the maroon buffalo check had uncomfortably short sleeves. They were about 24 inches on a medium. Much shorter than the 26 inches on the modern UHF mediums.
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@waXology I think the only people who would be able to answer this question is @Giles @Alex or Haraki.
The longer sleeves in the past was a purposed design in regards to riding motorcycles and sleeves riding up as you ride.
Fortunately, the UHF sleeves have increased in length over the years. The early ones, such as the IHSH-32 and the maroon buffalo check had uncomfortably short sleeves. They were about 24 inches on a medium. Much shorter than the 26 inches on the modern UHF mediums.
Super interesting about the longer due to riding. I love features designed for a purpose. Reminds me of a couple flannels from another JP brand that have 24" sleeves in a sz42. Super short which i grew to absolutely love. They are both work shirts which I always assumed had shorter sleeves for well, ease of working? There's a sweet spot though and I'm still enjoying finding it
