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IH-888-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    Paul9221
    啓蒙家
    Joined: 19 Apr 2011

    @Mizmazzle:

    @Paul9221:

    @Mizmazzle:

    Do most of y’all do the double chain stitch hem on these heavies?

    I would obviously prefer chain stitch on all of my IH denim, but I never guess the inseam correctly pre-soak and invariably ask my wife to hem them using a standard heavy duty machine.

    I see I see. I’m hoping I guessed the length right haha. I read earlier in this thread that Giles and some others do a double chain stitch hem. Was kinda wondering if this thick of denim makes that method preferable. Does your wife send it through the machine an extra round?

    She has a bit of a tough time pinning the fabric down on account of its density, but once she has it pinned, it goes through the machine well.  And it's usually a single stitch.  Actually, I don't think I have double stitch on any of my stuff.

    Double stitch is great if you can get it but it's not necessary for the jeans' structural integrity 🙂

    Blanket-line all the things!!!

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      I double chain stitch (which means chain stitching each leg 720 degrees), or even treble chain stitch because, with me, the hem stitching is what always goes first…..

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        Nik
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 12 Nov 2020

        Perhaps the extra chain stitching becomes necessary when the denim is not cuffed? My single stitches have never failed, but my jeans are cuffed. In my case, the abrasion of the denim against the footwear causes wear to the fold of the cuff, while the stitches are undisturbed.

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          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          I would not say it is necessary, but chain stitch is an inherently weak stitch.  I don't cuff, so I know the hem stitching will fail at some point, so I just do a 720 or 1080…..

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            hoppy_IPA
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 24 Feb 2019

            @Mizmazzle:

            Do most of y’all do the double chain stitch hem on these heavies?

            I got double chain stitch on my 2 recent pairs.  Like Giles, I don’t cuff either.  Kinda wanna see the 1080 though, G!

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              Mizmazzle
              見習いボス
              Joined: 29 Jun 2021

              I had to order these through Self Edge. I had a credit from another purchase so it made more sense. I will, however, never buy IH from anywhere else again but from IHUK directly. Again, I am resisting the urge to badmouth anyone here, but IHUK they ain’t!!! Incidentally, SE does not offer a double chain stitch. Guess I can send them to Gosport if the hem comes unraveled since I don’t cuff either.

              In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                @hoppy_IPA:

                Kinda wanna see the 1080 though, G!

                https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15852.msg689733#msg689733

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  Mizmazzle
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                  Got the heavies in today!! Tried them on and think I got the fit spot on!! Gonna soak em tomorrow morning!
                  Im new to the chain stitch game. There is some thread coming loose it seams. Thought I’d run it past y’all to see if this is normal or not before I reach out to Self Edge. What ya think?

                  In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    That is not good.  Needs redoing.

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      Mizmazzle
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                      Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                      Well, shit….

                      In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                        Mizmazzle
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                        Here the pre-soak fit pick. Think it’s about perfect. Some shrinkage after soaking should tighten up the length and top block a bit. Super happy with the sizing. Now to send them back to self edge to fix that chainstitch hem and get to the soaking, line drying, and most excitedly the pain!!!!

                        In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

                        last edited by 14 May 2022, 21:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Paul9221
                          啓蒙家
                          Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                          Looks like a good fit.  Sorry about the hemming issue.  They should be able to fix that up.

                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                            Mizmazzle
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                            @Paul9221:

                            Looks like a good fit.  Sorry about the hemming issue.  They should be able to fix that up.

                            If I get the 1/2 inch shrinkage in the waist and 1/2-3/4 in the hem I think these will be perfection. Love the denim. Almost has the lightest amount of slub. The indigo color is smooth and beautiful. Super impressed.

                            Sucks about the chainstitch being messed up. Not sure why they would send them out like that. But they’re fixing it so I guess that’s all you can ask for. Just another opportunity to work on my patience…I need all the practice I can get.

                            In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                              weftyarn
                              Iron Heart Deity
                              Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                              That's what I call a perfect fit, @Mizmazzle !

                              Looking forward to see post soak pics.

                              Use it or lose it.

                              last edited by 16 May 2022, 18:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Mizmazzle
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                                Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                                @weftyarn:

                                That's what I call a perfect fit, @Mizmazzle !

                                Looking forward to see post soak pics.

                                Thanks @weftyarn im stoked for sure. I’m so excited to break em in I’ll probably turn nocturnal to avoid the Colorado heat. It’s May and already hit 90 degrees!  ???

                                In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                  Jeanmoreau
                                  Joined: 19 May 2022

                                  Went with size 34. Usually size 32/33 in 501.
                                  I tried 633 but not enough top block so it gave me plumbers crack.
                                  The waste is comfortable but a little loose. Right now the jeans are staying up ok without a belt. Been wearing it for a week. They've been soaked and washed.

                                  My complaints would be it rides too low, and it's a little baggy. Somewhat diaper butt. But then again I hate jeans that are tight on my fat thighs, so that's what lead me to this cut.

                                  I expect hemming will help the situation. Should I have sized down?


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                                    Paul9221
                                    啓蒙家
                                    Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                    @Jeanmoreau:

                                    Went with size 34. Usually size 32/33 in 501.
                                    I tried 633 but not enough top block so it gave me plumbers crack.
                                    The waste is comfortable but a little loose. Right now the jeans are staying up ok without a belt. Been wearing it for a week. They've been soaked and washed.

                                    My complaints would be it rides too low, and it's a little baggy. Somewhat diaper butt. But then again I hate jeans that are tight on my fat thighs, so that's what lead me to this cut.

                                    I expect hemming will help the situation. Should I have sized down?

                                    Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk

                                    Hrmm, hard to say without a picture.  Can you post one?

                                    Blanket-line all the things!!!

                                    last edited by 20 May 2022, 15:53 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Jeanmoreau
                                      Joined: 19 May 2022

                                      @Paul9221:

                                      @Jeanmoreau:

                                      Went with size 34. Usually size 32/33 in 501.
                                      I tried 633 but not enough top block so it gave me plumbers crack.
                                      The waste is comfortable but a little loose. Right now the jeans are staying up ok without a belt. Been wearing it for a week. They've been soaked and washed.

                                      My complaints would be it rides too low, and it's a little baggy. Somewhat diaper butt. But then again I hate jeans that are tight on my fat thighs, so that's what lead me to this cut.

                                      I expect hemming will help the situation. Should I have sized down?

                                      Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk

                                      Hrmm, hard to say without a picture.  Can you post one?

                                      Sorry I just did.

                                      last edited by 20 May 2022, 15:56 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Paul9221
                                        啓蒙家
                                        Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                        They don't appear to be too loose.  Seems like a good fit in your thighs and top block.  Though you could have sized down, maybe.

                                        How did they feel when you first put them on?  It should feel snug if not slightly tight in the waist at first.  Unless the thighs are the bottleneck, like in my case.

                                        I think that a belt and a hem would make the whole fit better.

                                        Also, can you hike them up more?  This is a high rise fit so the waist line can go up a bit.  Might help fill in the top block in the right areas.  Belt will help keep it up.

                                        Blanket-line all the things!!!

                                        last edited by 20 May 2022, 16:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          cityofdelusion
                                          Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                                          @cityofdelusion:

                                          The sagging fabric (or "diaper butt" as some call it) won't ever change - at least that has been my experience with multiple cuts and sizes. You have to learn to live with it 🙂 I think it's due to the wide top block that IH has due to the placement of the rear pockets.

                                          PS: Other than that, fit looks good, I'd hem.

                                          last edited by 20 May 2022, 18:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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