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IHJ-79-BLK - Primaloft® Gold Quilted Riders Jacket - Black

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    motojobobo
    啓蒙家
    Joined: 22 Aug 2015

    Back from a 10 day, 3000 km motorcycle trip in the mountains. Wore my 79 layered under a mesh jacket whenever temps dropped under 16 deg C. What a great looking, versatile and warm item it is!

    Wish my home town weather would let me wear it more.
    There is a super cool sticker somewhere in that image.

    The journey is the objective.

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      AdamJ
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 29 Jun 2017

      Restocking on 1600BST on Tuesday 12th October

      The devil is in the detail..

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        AdamJ
        IHUK Crew
        Joined: 29 Jun 2017

        RESTOCK

        The devil is in the detail..

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          motojobobo
          啓蒙家
          Joined: 22 Aug 2015

          This jacket is a jewel for motorcyclists:

          • very wind resistant and warm under a motorbike jacket
          • packs small and light (+ no wrinkles)
          • thin & slippery so won’t bulk up at the arms, armpits nor chest while putting on your outer jacket
          • looks GOOD on its own when you are off the bike without your outer jacket

          Don’t hesitate…only downside is it makes me wish I lived somewhere cooler/colder!

          The journey is the objective.

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            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            It is probably my most worn Iron Heart piece…....

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              cityofdelusion
              Joined: 1 Jun 2018

              I think this jacket would be damn nice and even more functional with a zippered pocket in collar that contains a hood just like the M-65 jackets.

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                jordanscollected
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 13 Nov 2018

                @cityofdelusion I have some jackets with thin zip in hoods and rarely use them (I also understand that you didn't ask for my opinion on the idea). It does add some nice rigidity to the collar though.

                On this topic, when Haraki debuted the FW/21 collection on Intagram in Japan, he showed an IHJ-79 with a hood. I asked @Giles about it and he said that they didn't bring it over here because they never got to get their hands on a sample before they ordered their collection. I think it was called the IHJ-102 or similar. I've tried to track down more info on it with no luck.

                world tours:
                888 Fat guy chocolate WT
                Mad Red x2
                Wabidashery

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                  cityofdelusion
                  Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                  @jordanscollected Better to have something you may need one day than not to have it 🙂 I think this way, both customers that want a hood and that don't want one would be satisfied. It benefits both parties rather than just one (as it is right now). For me, it's only intuitive that a water-resistant functional (and light) jacket like the IHJ-79 should have a hood. But of course I respect your view on this.

                  Regarding the new iteration of this jacket with the hood: I'm so excited about hearing this! Thank you for letting me know 🙂 I hope we can see more very soon, this is great news @Giles

                  Edit: Are we talking about the IHJ-79 with a hood or a hood hidden in the collar? I was referring to the latter.

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                    neph93
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    @cityofdelusion:

                    it's only intuitive that a water-resistant functional (and light) jacket like the IHJ-79 should have a hood.

                    It isn’t if you’re riding a motorcycle.

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
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                      cityofdelusion
                      Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                      @neph93:

                      It isn’t if you’re riding a motorcycle.

                      @neph93 I was referring to my idea of having a hood hidden in the collar like the IH M-65 jackets. Don't want to create a large discussion here but: By that logic, if you're riding a motorcycle, you don't need the hood on the M-65 jackets, the IHJ-75 or IHJ-100 (?)

                      If you're riding a motorcycle and it bothers you, simply don't take out the hidden hood.

                      I understand that IH makes products for bikers. Then you simply don't use the hood if you're riding. And when you're not and you need a hood, you can consider yourself lucky that your jacket has one hidden in the hood. Intuitive, if we're talking about a functional jacket imo.

                      PS: Edited the message to express myself better.

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        IHJ-79-BLK is my most worn IH piece.  If I want a hood, I'll wear a hat or something with a hood.

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          cityofdelusion
                          Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                          @Giles:

                          IHJ-79-BLK is my most worn IH piece.  If I want a hood, I'll wear a hat or something with a hood.

                          Exactly. So: If you want to wear something with a hood, how about the IHJ-79 with a (hidden) hood?

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                            neph93
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                            This is explicitly a riders jacket, the M65 is not.  I don’t disagree that functionality would be increased for the casual wearer, but if you are going to design a jacket that should act as an insulating layer, under leathers, for a rider, this is it, and a hood is superfluous to that design.

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                            • Virginia Woolf
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                              Giles
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              If it had a hidden hood it would not be my most worn piece. I don't need the shag and hassle and compromise.  You want one, I don't.

                              Personally, I think the hidden hood in the M65 is a complete waste of time.  Obviously, lots of people don't.

                              The thing is that we all want different stuff from our stuff.  If we all wanted the same shit, life would be very boring….

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                motojobobo
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                                @neph93:

                                This is explicitly a riders jacket, the M65 is not.  I don’t disagree that functionality would be increased for the casual wearer, but if you are going to design a jacket that should act as an insulating layer, under leathers, for a rider, this is it.

                                Fully agree with @neph93 on this point…for a motorcyclist, a collar made thicker by a rolled up hood will never be as comfortable under a full face helmet as a thin, windproof collar which slides easily under the helmet. The reason I say this is a dream ‘motorcycle inner layer. Haraki san absolutely nailed this one perfectly for the motorcycle riders!

                                The journey is the objective.

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                                  cityofdelusion
                                  Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                                  @neph93:

                                  This is explicitly a riders jacket, the M65 is not.  I don’t disagree that functionality would be increased for the casual wearer, but if you are going to design a jacket that should act as an insulating layer, under leathers, for a rider, this is it, and a hood is superfluous to that design.

                                  The example I gave with the M-65 was to underline the fact that IH does not only make jackets for riders. This is evident, since jackets like the M65, if not for riders, are meant for casual wearers. Thus, this means that IH does indeed make jackets for casual wearers. If so, the IHJ-79 can be designed both for riders and for casual wearers only by adding a hidden hood. Win-Win.

                                  Regarding the argument of a hood beeing superflous: I don't ride so I wouldn't know but let's assume that when you're riding you don't use the hood. But if you are not riding (since you wouldn't always be riding to everywhere at all times I assume) and it rains, the "superflous" hood could come in handy. And if it doesn't; tuck it back in.

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                                    cityofdelusion
                                    Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                                    @motojobobo:

                                    @neph93:

                                    This is explicitly a riders jacket, the M65 is not.  I don’t disagree that functionality would be increased for the casual wearer, but if you are going to design a jacket that should act as an insulating layer, under leathers, for a rider, this is it.

                                    Fully agree with @neph93 on this point…for a motorcyclist, a collar made thicker by a rolled up hood will never be as comfortable under a full face helmet as a thin, windproof collar which slides easily under the helmet. The reason I say this is a dream ‘motorcycle inner layer. Haraki san absolutely nailed this one perfectly for the motorcycle riders!

                                    I understand. I cannot argue against the thought that this jacket, as it is, is very useful to riders. I agree that nothing should be changed about the design if it is so. But it could be tweaked to have a hidden hood also for casual wearers and released as an alternative product, no?

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                                      neph93
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                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      @cityofdelusion:

                                      Regarding the argument of a hood beeing superflous: I don't ride so I wouldn't know but let's assume that when you're riding you don't use the hood. But if you are not riding (since you wouldn't always be riding to everywhere at all times I assume) and it rains, the "superflous" hood could come in handy. And if it doesn't; tuck it back in.

                                      @motojobobo just explained the reason why a hood would be a bad idea for this jacket, from a riders perspective.

                                      As a self proclaimed minimalist, you can understand purity of design from concept to execution, I’m sure. This is made as a riders jacket. Can non-riders wear one, of course. But there won’t be a hood.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
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                                        cityofdelusion
                                        Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                                        @neph93:

                                        @motojobobo just explained the reason why a hood would be a bad idea for this jacket, from a riders perspective.

                                        As a self proclaimed minimalist, you can understand purity of design from concept to execution, I’m sure. This is made as a riders jacket. Can non-riders wear one, of course. But there won’t be a hood.

                                        Hadn't seen his comment when I commented to your reply. @motojobobo does raise a good point here that I, as a casual wearer, obviously wasn't aware of. As I replied to him, however, whilst changing nothing about the IHJ-79, there could be an alternative iteration model for casual wearers that does include such a hood.

                                        Minimalism does not mean less functional. To me, not having to additionally carry an umbrella or a hat is minimalism 🙂

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                                          cityofdelusion
                                          Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                                          Anyway, I was just suggesting this as an idea as it is something I wanted from this jacket and thought that it may benefit other casual wearers too. But I understand of course, as @Giles said, that everyone has different opinions - and that's good. I don't want to spam this thread any further, as I could've also posted this in the "What should we make" thread. I just thought it might make sense to mention it here.

                                          Thanks for the discussion. Always nice to exchange ideas and opinions 🙂

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