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    • GilesG
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      Here is an interesting article about whole grain bread….

      https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/what-makes-whole-grain-bread-so-hard-to-bake-63878/

      I am making a 50% poolish today (the poolish was mixed last night and comprised 500gms strong organic white, 500gms water 0.4gms yeast).  Here is the poolish when I came downstairs:

      To make the final dough, I added 200gms white, 150gms 8-grain 150gms dark rye, 250 gms water, 3 gms yeast and 21gms salt.

      8-grain:

      Dark rye:

      So there is plenty of fibre in the dough and no unnatural stuff added to make it rise.  @Chap was the inspiration for this mix (though I think he made a biga not a poolish), saying it was the tastiest bread he had ever baked….

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • neph93N
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        Totally support the use of seven or eight corn flour. Tasty, rich in fibre and easy to get on with.

        Here are the 100% white loaves just out of the oven:


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          you guys are bananas. i love it

          Maybe so. Maybe not

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          • endoE
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            @neph93:

            Here are the 100% white loaves just out of the oven

            that looks so good! I think I can smell it over here …

            si tacuisses

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            • neph93N
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              @endo:

              @neph93:

              Here are the 100% white loaves just out of the oven

              that looks so good! I think I can smell it over here …

              It was pretty tasty I have to admit. One loaf gone already [emoji15]

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              • neph93N
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                @zhivago this is the 25-30% (can’t be bothered with the math [emoji1]), wholewheat.

                Different crumb and colour to the white, but still airy and light. It has lovely earthy taste.


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                • GilesG
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                  My very rudimentary way of keeping track of the rise…..After a couple of hours, I'll make a mark where the dough has risen to, then I just keep on marking the new height until either there is no more movement, or I get bored...

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • GilesG
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                    Then, I did get bored…..

                    And turned the pancake onto the working surface…

                    Shaped and tensioned….

                    And now for an hour or so of proofing….

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      😃

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                      • GilesG
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                        And complete….

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • endoE
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                          This is my first experience with breaking my own bread. I like a good bread and always toyed with the idea of baking. After reading all the nice posts here I dared to give it a try, another good result of this forum.

                          And what shall I say, it's gotten quite well. Prepared the starter yesterday, then some work this morning and later a great smell all through our flat. (That alone was worth it.) It's a brown bread, ¾ wheat and ¼ rye. The crust is very nice, the crumb I would say ok. It's not sticky and doesn't fall apart, but could be somehow nicer. The underside did not develop much of a crust. But anyway, not bad for a first try. The taste is really nice, just had a slice with some butter and emmentaler. 😋

                          si tacuisses

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                          • GilesG
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                            Great first attempt…

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              …lot's of good info @Giles and @neph93! Certainly up for the wheat variants! Fantastic! Thank you! 🙂

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                                Just some Madeleines for breakfast - nice smell of vanilla and lemon.

                                si tacuisses

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                                  @endo:

                                  Just some Madeleines for breakfast - nice smell of vanilla and lemon.

                                  “Just” some Madeleines? Excellent humblebrag, they look delicious [emoji1]

                                  Thoroughly enjoying baking full levain doughs now the air temps in my house are evening out. Hit the nail on the head with a warm spot white levain and a Country Brown.


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                                  • endoE
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                                    Excellent humblebrag, they look delicious [emoji1]

                                    Actually, they're very easy to make, a 5-min-recipe. You just need the moulds.
                                    I'm more keen on developing some skills in bread baking. Will carry on trying …

                                    si tacuisses

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                                      @endo:

                                      Actually, they're very easy to make, a 5-min-recipe. You just need the moulds.
                                      I'm more keen on developing some skills in bread baking. Will carry on trying …

                                      I will keep an eye out for moulds… but if I bought all the kitchen equipment I like I'd have no money for IH 😃

                                      As for baking, your first loaf had a lovely shape and rise to it. How much of your wheat was all purpose flour/white flour?

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                                      • endoE
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                                        @neph93:

                                        I will keep an eye out for moulds… but if I bought all the kitchen equipment I like I'd have no money for IH 😃

                                        Or where to put all the kitchen stuff … But they're not that expensive and Madeleines are alway great for the kids.

                                        As for baking, your first loaf had a lovely shape and rise to it. How much of your wheat was all purpose flour/white flour?

                                        It was 180g wholemeal wheat, 200g wheat 'typ 1050' and 125g rye 'typ 1150'.

                                        Apologies, but I don't know how this translates to english flour types. 'All purpose' flour in Germany would probably wheat type 405, the higher numbers have a higher content of natural mineral nutrients (I think).

                                        si tacuisses

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                                        • endoE
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                                          just found this

                                          si tacuisses

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            just found this

                                            What a great chart. I’m translating between US terms, U.K. terms and Norwegian terms. I use the German type 1050 (or maybe 830) as my standard flour. I rarely make a loaf without at least 70% being this, but sometimes go 50/50.

                                            Standard flour gets a bad rap generally imho, in terms of health. I like a bit of fibre and taste as much as the next man, but there’s a bunch of science that suggests too much whole grain is not actually good for you, and using a lot of it makes for so-so bread.

                                            My balanced approach is regularly mixing in whole wheat, heritage corns, spelt and rye, but as texture is important too, and you won’t get that without high gluten white flour, I generally look at a 70/30 mix.

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