Brexshit
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…so the UK is doing this (additional costs for shipping/tax and confusion) or a retaliatory strike from the EU members?
The problem is the terms of the deal itself. The UK decided in 2017 to leave the Single Market and Customs Union. They got their wish.
UK goods are furthermore liable to duty as they left the single VAT Area. Sadly, there is no "sorting" this out. This is the outcome, for five years at least.
Teething problems are only somewhat true. UK traders do not yet need to produce all paperwork to prove their goods meet requirements. In future, they will.
The UK left to pursue strike deals elsewhere. Okay. But that likely results in regulatory divergence with the EU, therefore more UK-EU trade friction. Or why leave?
I can't claim to have any special insight, but it seems to me that an expanded Iron Heart EU operation is the only viable, long-term path. I hope it's up to speed soon.
Hello everyone, apologies that my first post is about Brexit. I also own some Iron Heart goods, and look forward to ordering again in the near future.
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- A trade deal is of no use if the customs people who process shipments in the individual countries have not been told the rules
- Any of the customs officials who are pissed off with the UK for leaving the EU and therefore making their lives hell, are punishing UK shipments by slapping whatever charges they think they can get away with (and now the hell do I start a claim with the Bulgarian tax office, or indeed, and of the EU countries)
- The EU and Japan have a free trade arrangement, the UK and Japan have the same free trade agreement, so all intelligent people would think that therefore shipping Japanese goods between the EU and the UK would not attract duty, and that is exactly what we were told before 21st Dec. Actually, there is a not now a single person we can speak to who will give us a definitive answer, most of our shipments containing Japanese goods into the EU are attracting duty, but not all.
4) Even goods made in The UK (Simmons Bilt) are attracting duty (see point 2).
Point four is sadly a straightforward case. The jacket fails to meet rules of origin.
While made in the UK, it is made of what is considered "foreign" content. American hide, for instance.
Over a certain threshold of "foreign" content and the good fails to qualify. And if it does qualify, the paperwork needs to be filled out to say so.
Just explaining the situation for the benefit of all. Tariff-free trade is a mere mirage. A delight, from start to finish.
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Just wait until the distraction of covid passes. The pricks in the UK that voted for this shit storm based on precious sovereignty won't know what's hit them. I don't particularly want to spend my UK holiday dealing with some moron that would normally have spent 2 weeks poolside in Alicanti.
I've received a few EU orders (Germany) using DPD, ordered from UK based websites, and I was gobsmacked that they arrived inside 3 days, one arrived today. Nothing frustrates me more than inconsistency.
Hope you folks find a remedy soon.
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Point four is sadly a straightforward case. The jacket fails to meet rules of origin.
While made in the UK, it is made of what is considered "foreign" content. American hide, for instance.
Over a certain threshold of "foreign" content and the good fails to qualify. And if it does qualify, the paperwork needs to be filled out to say so.
Just explaining the situation for the benefit of all. Tariff-free trade is a mere mirage. A delight, from start to finish.
- The Simmons Bilt Jacket was made from Italian hide
- The COO rules allow you to declare an item that is sufficiently made up of components from other countries, as COO of the country where it is made. In this case, we complied
- We got the duty refunded after a lot of shag and hassle, which sort of proves many of my points
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- The Simmons Bilt Jacket was made from Italian hide
- The COO rules allow you to declare an item that is sufficiently made up of components from other countries, as COO of the country where it is made. In this case, we complied
- We got the duty refunded after a lot of shag and hassle, which sort of proves many of my points
Glad you got the duty back Giles, quite right. Ill-will doesn't surprise but incompetence less so. The deal was finalised mere days prior to the need to apply it. It's an impossible (if deliberately manufactured) situation.
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I gave up smoking 3 weeks ago and me and Paula are having a dry Feb. Now that's bad timing
Feb Shorter than Jan. I like it!
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Of course, it's going to feel a lot longer…
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So, @Madame Buttonfly is doing a load of research as to how we operate legally in the new world order. This very useful advice from the HMRC (our national tax agency)…....FFS....
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Is there any update on the shipments? Finding a 555 XHS cut here in EU seems tricky!
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My head HURTS. I'm learning a lot, and looking forward to LOADS of extra work getting this situation sorted (it's already started…)
And to think, I was silly enough to be hoping to retire soon...
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I’m so sorry IH crew. Gonna figure out an order asap[emoji3590]
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The stubborn crew has my full sympathy. If a future IH EU distribution centre might be in Berlin (a cool place for things denim…) I'll apply for the job.
As we're supposed to always look at the bright side: since the mere sight of Boris Johnson makes me want to throw up, I trust the (British) denim community will be on the right side when it comes to the next election... -
The HMRC post is the closest I’ve ever seen to “Don’t ask us, we don’t know” from any government agency. Most of the time it’s multiple pages of doublespeak and please refer to’s.
@Madame Buttonfly I truly feel for you. I would suggest Gin, but I know you and G are taking the month off.
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@goosehd - thank you for your kind words. We'll get through this, even without beer and wine and gin for a few weeks! To be honest, some of what we're trying to get to grips with is so complex, it's probably best that we are examining our options with clear heads…
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@Madame:
@goosehd - … To be honest, some of what we're trying to get to grips with is so complex, it's probably best that we are examining our options with clear heads...
@Madame Buttonfly and to the whole IHUK crew…. you will sort it out!
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Thanks very much @Aetas - we've made a lot of headway over the past few days, we are feeling positive, and looking forward to posting some better news here soon
