Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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Legislating against murder is one thing, legislating against pocket knives is another.
Put another way, legislating against drunk driving is one thing. Enacting Prohibition is another. Can we all agree that Prohibition was a bad idea, was ineffective, and increased the overall misery and crime rate…?
Legislating against innocuous behaviors in the hope it will lead to reduction of noxious ones is the first step towards tyranny. This tendency should be fought systematically, everywhere, anytime by thinking members of society.
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No, I do not agree. I'm not sure of your understanding of the domestic legislation making process in the UK? I am not a barrister or judge, but I have contributed to The Law Commission's development and drafting of legislation, and have been cited in their consultations. I have a small idea of the process.
The Public Health Act 1984 already existed before Covid 19.the Act was amended to include the virus as one of the infectious diseases covered. The Corona virus Act was subsequently enacted.
The current legislation and tier restriction are reviewed every 2 weeks in Parliament, and the Act itself expires in 2022. It does not just continue.
Anyone detained under the Act has the right to appeal to a Justice of the Peace (Magistrate).
Our forefathers and mothers fought and died for liberty and freedom, and they are not taken lightly in our democracy despite what parts of the media would suggest. There need to be checks and balances in place for certain, but the UK is not the USA, China, or North Korea. I am reassured that tyranny is a few weeks off yet.
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I do not have the time to get into an intellectual discussion about the loss of liberty and the rise of tyranny. For fucks sake let''s leave that for another day. At the moment we are living through a crisis of unimaginable proportions. This disease is highly contagious, unpredictable and can lead to an awful death. One person I know who died from this, was laughing and joking one day, the next he was having panic attacks and trying to rip off his mask because in his oxygen-deprived state he thought that the thing that was actually supplying him the oxygen was the thing that was restricting his breathing, he was placed in a coma and put in ICU, he suffered a collapsed lung and bounced between 40 and 100% oxygen, every time the doctors tried to reduce his sedation, he started to panic. in the end, he was so physically (let alone mentally) damaged, they had to turn him off. I don't want to die like that, not do I want anyone else to. I don't know how far a sneeze or cough carries outside, I don't know how long the virus lingers on something that a person has touched after sneezing or coughing into their hand. I'm not going to take the risk and I am personally glad that our govt is trying to make sure that fewer of us die, by giving us guidelines. At the moment, I don't give a flying fuck about the loss of liberty or the rise of tyranny, I dont want to die like that.
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My grandmother is currently dying alone with no one around to help her leave this world because she was exposed to someone who didn't think a worldwide pandemic was a big deal and infected her. This year has been a wake up call and clearly illustrated to me how selfish and stubborn humans are. At this point ten months into this nightmare I have zero patience for people peddling conspiracy theories and downplaying the risks of Covid.
Masks work, science is real.
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I apologise @Giles and I agree. We need to do all we can. This should unite us. My thoughts are with you.
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Mask up guys !!
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