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    IH-777-XHSib - 25oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Tapered Jeans - Indigo/Black

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    • neph93N
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      @monkO:

      Go for the 34’s and tough out the waist?
      Go for the 35’s and enjoy the roominess and maybe do a hot soak?

      Are those measurements for the SBG as they are now after having been broken in?

      Bare in mind that the XHS will shrink a little when they get a wash. You’ll loose a centimeter or two in the waist then. The XHS typically ends up about half an inch bigger than published measurements after shrinkage and stretch.

      This denim is very different to the 21oz. I have sized down in XHS before and while it is doable a more relaxed for in this denim may be a good long term bet, if you want very comfortable jeans.

      That being said I think the 35’s will be too big for you. Have you asked Graham about a rogue 34 in bigger measurements?

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

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        @neph93:

        @monkO:

        Go for the 34’s and tough out the waist?
        Go for the 35’s and enjoy the roominess and maybe do a hot soak?

        Are those measurements for the SBG as they are now after having been broken in?

        Bare in mind that the XHS will shrink a little when they get a wash. You’ll loose a centimeter or two in the waist then. The XHS typically ends up about half an inch bigger than published measurements after shrinkage and stretch.

        This denim is very different to the 21oz. I have sized down in XHS before and while it is doable a more relaxed for in this denim may be a good long term bet, if you want very comfortable jeans.

        That being said I think the 35’s will be too big for you. Have you asked Graham about a rogue 34 in bigger measurements?

        The measurements are from the broken in SBG, about a year of reasonable wear.

        I agree on the 35’s.  Is expecting 1” in the waist too much to hope for?

        I’ll reach out to Graham now.

        Thanks for the reply!

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        • neph93N
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          @monkO:

          I agree on the 35’s.  Is expecting 1” in the waist too much to hope for?

          One inch of shrinkage is the Max you will get. Most people get less judging by my own experience and documentation here. One inch of stretch is normal. That leaves you with a little aggregate stretch.

          I guess if your jeans shrink 0.5” and you achieve 1.5” stretch then you have 1” aggregate stretch. I’d say it is possible but I wouldn’t bank on it.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

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            Just heard from Graham, looks like they have an 88.6 waist.  With .5” of stretch, that puts the pair around 89.8cm, which is pretty close to ideal.  I think I’m going to pull the trigger on them!

            One inch of shrinkage is the Max you will get. Most people get less judging by my own experience and documentation here. One inch of stretch is normal. That leaves you with a little aggregate stretch.

            I guess if your jeans shrink 0.5” and you achieve 1.5” stretch then you have 1” aggregate stretch. I’d say it is possible but I wouldn’t bank on it.

            I think I was a little unclear.  If I plan on no soak/wash, just wearing them day one.  Is hoping for .5-1” of stretch in the waist reasonable?

            I understand that after the first wash they will shrink down (about 1”), but after that I should be able to get them back out to the “stretched” waist size?

            Thanks for all your help, super excited!

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            • neph93N
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              You’ll get an inch wearing them without a soak, but you’ll need to leave the legs an inch longer than normal or leave them unhemmed. You also risk fade shift if you wear them too long without washing. If honeycombs form and they shrink they will end up an inch higher than they should be.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

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                @neph93:

                You’ll get an inch wearing them without a soak, but you’ll need to leave the legs an inch longer than normal or leave them unhemmed. You also risk fade shift if you wear them too long without washing. If honeycombs form and they shrink they will end up an inch higher than they should be.

                This is super helpful / a great point.

                I just pulled the trigger, so the jeans should show up next week some time.

                Do you recommend doing an initial soak, after I make sure they fit? Or am I just asking for a world of pain and potentially broken fingers?

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                • neph93N
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                  Assuming you have ordered them unhemmed then try them on. If they fit ok and you can get them done up I would recommend a soak to get the shrinkage out. Then you know what your dealing with and have a week or so of awkwardness ahead of you.

                  If they are too snug you have the choice of returning them or wearing for a couple of weeks to stretch them, then soaking.

                  Feel free to post pics of you’re unsure.

                  The buttons tend to be difficult the first two or three goes with a soak or otherwise. Holding the holes open with reverse pliers helps a lot.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                    Sounds like a plan.

                    Thanks for all your help.  I’ll drop some photos when the Jeans show up!

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                      Could I run a quick fit check by you all? Thank you! Day 3 in these beauts - worried the thighs are too tight/hoping they stretch out a bit. No soaks for me until month 6 typically.

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                      • neph93N
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                        @rodspeed I'd say that is your own judgement call. Personally I think they look good in the leg and would definitely wear them like that.

                        I would be worried about the shrinkage you'll get with a wash/soak however. They will probably loose 0.3-0.5" in the thigh and then they may cause you some trouble.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                        • KasiK
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                          Go running, biking or do some squat, may help to stretch

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                          • hoppy_IPAH
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                            @rodspeed -  The silhouette on your pair looks dope but I can tell the fit would be too tight for me, esp after some shrink.  I sold my last pair of XHSib because I couldn’t get full range of motion.  Sized up this year & am loving the freedom.

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                              They look a little tight (and therefore uncomfortable) to me. Also, a soak will make the thighs not work anymore, probably.

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                                @neph93 @Kasi @hoppy_IPA @sabergirl

                                Thanks for the feedback. They’re pretty comfortable now, so I’m not going to stress it. Cheers.

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                                  Fit pics today

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                                    @twin:

                                    Fit pics today

                                    Nice fit pics @twin and great evo

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                                      Went Xmas tree hunting today in my 777s. These have seen one cold soak and have stretched out to become quite comfy.

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                                        @rodspeed:

                                        Went Xmas tree hunting today in my 777s. These have seen one cold soak and have stretched out to become quite comfy.

                                        @rodspeed  You will also get that EVO. JUST WEAR A LOT. Picked a very nice tree to. 🙂

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                                        • SmiladonS
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                                          @rodspeed I think those look great, just wear the hell out of them and when you wash em they will probably go back to how they are at first. Stretch em then shrink em back to normal, inseam wont come back of course, but you get it 😎

                                          “Life is too short to be taken seriously.”
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                                          • SmiladonS
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                                            I think these are in the verge of really shedding some blue. A couple more weeks of crawling around in my car should do the trick…

                                            “Life is too short to be taken seriously.”
                                            -me
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