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IH-777-XHSib - 25oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Tapered Jeans - Indigo/Black

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    a.aron
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 22 Oct 2020

    My 555 XHS's were on the button with a bit of tightness in the waist, glad I did not size up as they have relaxed a bunch in the last 2 weeks with daily wear. Depends on how you would like them to fit, for me baggy is a no go so I'd go with the smaller pair.

    last edited by 19 Nov 2020, 21:10 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Jimothy
      Joined: 21 Oct 2020

      I have the 555's in the 25oz full disclosure, but I found that you'll likely get a .25-.5 stretch overall since they are unwashed. Following the wash the jeans shrunk pretty much an inch. YMMV

      last edited by 19 Nov 2020, 21:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        neph93
        見習いボス
        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

        @monkO:

        Go for the 34’s and tough out the waist?
        Go for the 35’s and enjoy the roominess and maybe do a hot soak?

        Are those measurements for the SBG as they are now after having been broken in?

        Bare in mind that the XHS will shrink a little when they get a wash. You’ll loose a centimeter or two in the waist then. The XHS typically ends up about half an inch bigger than published measurements after shrinkage and stretch.

        This denim is very different to the 21oz. I have sized down in XHS before and while it is doable a more relaxed for in this denim may be a good long term bet, if you want very comfortable jeans.

        That being said I think the 35’s will be too big for you. Have you asked Graham about a rogue 34 in bigger measurements?

        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

        • Dame Vera Lynn
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          monkO
          Joined: 19 Nov 2020

          @neph93:

          @monkO:

          Go for the 34’s and tough out the waist?
          Go for the 35’s and enjoy the roominess and maybe do a hot soak?

          Are those measurements for the SBG as they are now after having been broken in?

          Bare in mind that the XHS will shrink a little when they get a wash. You’ll loose a centimeter or two in the waist then. The XHS typically ends up about half an inch bigger than published measurements after shrinkage and stretch.

          This denim is very different to the 21oz. I have sized down in XHS before and while it is doable a more relaxed for in this denim may be a good long term bet, if you want very comfortable jeans.

          That being said I think the 35’s will be too big for you. Have you asked Graham about a rogue 34 in bigger measurements?

          The measurements are from the broken in SBG, about a year of reasonable wear.

          I agree on the 35’s.  Is expecting 1” in the waist too much to hope for?

          I’ll reach out to Graham now.

          Thanks for the reply!

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            neph93
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            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

            @monkO:

            I agree on the 35’s.  Is expecting 1” in the waist too much to hope for?

            One inch of shrinkage is the Max you will get. Most people get less judging by my own experience and documentation here. One inch of stretch is normal. That leaves you with a little aggregate stretch.

            I guess if your jeans shrink 0.5” and you achieve 1.5” stretch then you have 1” aggregate stretch. I’d say it is possible but I wouldn’t bank on it.

            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

            • Dame Vera Lynn
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              monkO
              Joined: 19 Nov 2020

              Just heard from Graham, looks like they have an 88.6 waist.  With .5” of stretch, that puts the pair around 89.8cm, which is pretty close to ideal.  I think I’m going to pull the trigger on them!

              One inch of shrinkage is the Max you will get. Most people get less judging by my own experience and documentation here. One inch of stretch is normal. That leaves you with a little aggregate stretch.

              I guess if your jeans shrink 0.5” and you achieve 1.5” stretch then you have 1” aggregate stretch. I’d say it is possible but I wouldn’t bank on it.

              I think I was a little unclear.  If I plan on no soak/wash, just wearing them day one.  Is hoping for .5-1” of stretch in the waist reasonable?

              I understand that after the first wash they will shrink down (about 1”), but after that I should be able to get them back out to the “stretched” waist size?

              Thanks for all your help, super excited!

              last edited by 20 Nov 2020, 15:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                neph93
                見習いボス
                Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                You’ll get an inch wearing them without a soak, but you’ll need to leave the legs an inch longer than normal or leave them unhemmed. You also risk fade shift if you wear them too long without washing. If honeycombs form and they shrink they will end up an inch higher than they should be.

                «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                • Dame Vera Lynn
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                  monkO
                  Joined: 19 Nov 2020

                  @neph93:

                  You’ll get an inch wearing them without a soak, but you’ll need to leave the legs an inch longer than normal or leave them unhemmed. You also risk fade shift if you wear them too long without washing. If honeycombs form and they shrink they will end up an inch higher than they should be.

                  This is super helpful / a great point.

                  I just pulled the trigger, so the jeans should show up next week some time.

                  Do you recommend doing an initial soak, after I make sure they fit? Or am I just asking for a world of pain and potentially broken fingers?

                  last edited by 20 Nov 2020, 17:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    neph93
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                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    Assuming you have ordered them unhemmed then try them on. If they fit ok and you can get them done up I would recommend a soak to get the shrinkage out. Then you know what your dealing with and have a week or so of awkwardness ahead of you.

                    If they are too snug you have the choice of returning them or wearing for a couple of weeks to stretch them, then soaking.

                    Feel free to post pics of you’re unsure.

                    The buttons tend to be difficult the first two or three goes with a soak or otherwise. Holding the holes open with reverse pliers helps a lot.

                    «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                    • Dame Vera Lynn
                    last edited by 20 Nov 2020, 17:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      monkO
                      Joined: 19 Nov 2020

                      Sounds like a plan.

                      Thanks for all your help.  I’ll drop some photos when the Jeans show up!

                      last edited by 20 Nov 2020, 17:53 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • R
                        rodspeed
                        Joined: 18 Nov 2020

                        Could I run a quick fit check by you all? Thank you! Day 3 in these beauts - worried the thighs are too tight/hoping they stretch out a bit. No soaks for me until month 6 typically.

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                          neph93
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                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                          @rodspeed I'd say that is your own judgement call. Personally I think they look good in the leg and would definitely wear them like that.

                          I would be worried about the shrinkage you'll get with a wash/soak however. They will probably loose 0.3-0.5" in the thigh and then they may cause you some trouble.

                          «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                          • Dame Vera Lynn
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                            Kasi
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                            Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                            Go running, biking or do some squat, may help to stretch

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                              hoppy_IPA
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 24 Feb 2019

                              @rodspeed -  The silhouette on your pair looks dope but I can tell the fit would be too tight for me, esp after some shrink.  I sold my last pair of XHSib because I couldn’t get full range of motion.  Sized up this year & am loving the freedom.

                              last edited by 20 Nov 2020, 20:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                sabergirl
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                They look a little tight (and therefore uncomfortable) to me. Also, a soak will make the thighs not work anymore, probably.

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                                last edited by 20 Nov 2020, 23:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • R
                                  rodspeed
                                  Joined: 18 Nov 2020

                                  @neph93 @Kasi @hoppy_IPA @sabergirl

                                  Thanks for the feedback. They’re pretty comfortable now, so I’m not going to stress it. Cheers.

                                  last edited by 21 Nov 2020, 02:17 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    twin
                                    見習いボス
                                    Joined: 12 May 2012

                                    Fit pics today

                                    last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 02:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      rodspeed
                                      Joined: 18 Nov 2020

                                      @twin:

                                      Fit pics today

                                      Nice fit pics @twin and great evo

                                      last edited by 28 Nov 2020, 19:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        rodspeed
                                        Joined: 18 Nov 2020

                                        Went Xmas tree hunting today in my 777s. These have seen one cold soak and have stretched out to become quite comfy.

                                        last edited by 28 Nov 2020, 19:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          twin
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 12 May 2012

                                          @rodspeed:

                                          Went Xmas tree hunting today in my 777s. These have seen one cold soak and have stretched out to become quite comfy.

                                          @rodspeed  You will also get that EVO. JUST WEAR A LOT. Picked a very nice tree to. 🙂

                                          last edited by 29 Nov 2020, 21:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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