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    supremegonzo
    Joined: 23 Jun 2016

    I remember back in 2016 prior to the Brexit vote Giles said that if it was a YES outcome he would move operations to mainland EU. What is the plan now when it looks like Britain got it’s NO and it is looking more and more like a NO DEAL BREXIT.  What are Giles’ plan for IRON HEART?

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      neph93
      見習いボス
      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

      I think he said he would consider it. I suspect it will be a case of wait and see how it affects the business model right now though.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

      • Virginia Woolf
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        supremegonzo
        Joined: 23 Jun 2016

        I fear it will drive up prices

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          neph93
          見習いボス
          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          That is obviously a possibility. I don’t know the details of the existing trade deals with Japan or the United States, nor how they will change. If the net effect of them isn’t too bad (it may even be positive post-Brexit), then perhaps IHUK can eat the extra costs connected to doing business in Europe.

          Of course, the establishment of Iron Heart Germany may be partially in response to Brexit as well. Having an EU registered business in the heart of the EU may create the same possibilities that Iron Heart America does.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
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            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            I believe I said that one of the possible options would be to open up an EEC based operation.  That is still a possibility.

            If our cost base does increase, then of course we will also have to consider raising our prices. We run a business, there is little point in running an unprofitable one, because if we do, we go bust and then there is no business.

            However, I am wasting zero time worrying about it, because there are a bzillion variables and unknowns that will alter the end outcome, and thus how we change our business to cope with the new world order.  So until, I know what is actually going to happen, I will worry about things I can affect, not things I cant.

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              supremegonzo
              Joined: 23 Jun 2016

              I am sure I speak for all fans of IRON HEART that we wish you and the business the very best of luck no matter what the outcome of BREXIT is. We look forward to new jeans and new shirts and everything in between. We also look forward to seeing IRON HEART in brick and mortar stores across the world especially in this difficult time with COVID-19 and that they too can continue to stock IRON HEART..

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                Kasi
                見習いボス
                Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                Iron Heart will rise’s you in my prayer…. keep going.

                Brexit can go to hell.

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                The world's insane
                While you drink champagne
                And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                  bob_z
                  Joined: 19 Sept 2019

                  I don’t know if it was planned a long time ago or brexit driven but to my knowledge we had no IH sellers in NL last year and now we have two and I am delighted for that! Although online shopping couldn’t be any better the way IH does it, but there is simply no substitute to a local based shop/community.

                  I can resist anything but temptation.

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                    neph93
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    @bob_z:

                    I don’t know if it was planned a long time ago or brexit driven but to my knowledge we had no IH sellers in NL last year and now we have two…

                    More to do with the popularity of this kind of premium clothing, increased awareness of the brand, and IHUK’s work to supply the growing network of retailers. The EU retailers still have to buy from a UK based company so both are subject to applicable post Brexit trade deals (or lack thereof).

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
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                      Giles
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                      We do virtually nothing proactive to find new retailers.  If they find us, of course we are delighted, but we want people who want to stock Iron Heart to make the effort to contact us, it's almost a sort of pre-qualification of their intent and interest….

                      When we go to trade shows, it is really to spend time with our existing retailers.  If we recruit a new retailer, that's accidental....

                      And if a potential retailer comes onto the stand who has never heard of Iron heart, it's a hard no.

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        Kasi
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                        The U.K government
                        Lies

                        https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/europe-news/der-spiegel-on-brexit-6873020?fbclid=IwAR3C-iIb48RKydQEyL1qLbakURLC4OoAfyqkvwj-F4QR2Sc6xPe9m0ukJpE

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                        The world's insane
                        While you drink champagne
                        And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                          organisys
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 24 Mar 2015

                          https://www.ted.com/talks/carole_cadwalladr_facebook_s_role_in_brexit_and_the_threat_to_democracy

                          Pride of Japan :-)

                          last edited by 11 Feb 2021, 10:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            Bm48
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 29 Aug 2016

                            That is really interesting, I’ve been following brexit as as I’m interested in how Britain has become so divided and the similarities with the USA.
                            I understand there is a history of anti eu among the right wing press in the uk going back decades which I could never understand,as I felt that would suit a Russian agenda, and not benefit the uk🤔
                            Anyway hopefully this kind of hatred and division will be seen for what it is before it gets out of hand, as history shows us where it will end.
                            Peace

                            last edited by 13 Feb 2021, 20:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • AetasA
                              Aetas
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 19 Jun 2013

                              Thanks @organisys . Mind-Expanding!

                              I‘ve seen dozens of such signs in my town, which could described similar to this area in Wales:

                              Looks like it was oldfashion and useless, to advertise the advantages of the EU via this channel.
                              I have hope!

                              last edited by 13 Feb 2021, 20:31 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                organisys
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 24 Mar 2015

                                My opinion is that a lot of people that voted leave were mis-sold or misinformed.
                                😞

                                Pride of Japan :-)

                                last edited by 13 Feb 2021, 21:50 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • steelworkerS
                                  steelworker
                                  見習いボス
                                  Joined: 16 Apr 2014

                                  @organisys:

                                  https://www.ted.com/talks/carole_cadwalladr_facebook_s_role_in_brexit_and_the_threat_to_democracy

                                  Damning talk well presented.

                                  Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                                  Well, I have others.

                                  last edited by 14 Feb 2021, 02:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • vaquero357V
                                    vaquero357
                                    Banned
                                    Joined: 9 Aug 2020

                                    …it seems to me the cattle are easier to control when their all in the same corral. I don't understand not wanting to control your own destiny? :-\

                                    last edited by 14 Feb 2021, 19:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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