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    Watches - another OCD problem

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    • henry_davidH
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      @Graeme:

      I'm very much of the opinion that paying a premium on a watch from a manufacturer that sells around a million pieces a year is stupid. I'm not willing to play games with the dealers to get on "the list" in order to purchase one at retail either.

      This is why I bought vintage when deals were still to be had there. Now … not so much. I happen to love this iteration of the Seamaster Diver 300M personally:

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      • JDelageJ
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        @Graeme:

        I got added to a watch trading group on Facebook, and I've seen Oyster Perpetuals going over retail. People are even asking for a premium on the Air King, which is apparently the least loved model in Rolex's range. I'm not convinced that there are any bargains.

        I'm very much of the opinion that paying a premium on a watch from a manufacturer that sells around a million pieces a year is stupid. I'm not willing to play games with the dealers to get on "the list" in order to purchase one at retail either.

        All the steel Rolex, and many of the PM models, sell over retail on the second hand market (if mint). That's why it is worth putting your name down with a retailer, just in case. Is it worth buying 10's of thousands worth of stuff? No.

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        • GraemeG
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          Probably preaching to the converted here. 😃

          And also.

          Though I do like the palm dial on the Rolex.

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          • henry_davidH
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            @Graeme:

            Probably preaching to the converted here. 😃

            Yes and no  😉

            I can appreciate that the movement is of a different class in the GS and that the case finishing is rather good, too. Were I to buy a new watch tomorrow (barring scarcity)? I'd buy a contemporary Rolex. Were I to buy vintage tomorrow? I'd buy an early ref. 17000 Oysterquartz (or hope that someone gifted me the ref. 6063 Bao Dai). I do like GS, but not enough to buy it for myself. I just … like the styling far better. The dial side of GS (and this applies to ALS for me as well) doesn't do it for me.

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            • GilesG
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              Nervous, moi?

              Yes, actually 😃 😃 😃 😃

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • GilesG
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                So far, so good…...

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • GilesG
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                  And, success….

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • B
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                    Amazing watch, G.  One of the coolest blancpains ever.  Enjoy it.

                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

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                    • GilesG
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                      Thanks, I've had it a few years, but needed to swap out the strap, but 50 Fathoms do not come with spring bars.  So it's a bit of a job getting everything sorted….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • JDelageJ
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                        I have watched many of those Watchfinder videos. That guy has an amazing voice.

                        I have 3 GS so far. I like them very much, especially the simple 3-hand dress watches.

                        GS has the edge on case finish. They may or not have the edge on movements, depending on your priorities. Rolex seems to have the edge on bracelet (maybe) and clasps (consensus). IMHO, Rolex has the edge on convenience / comfort. Look at dive watches or GMTs, and the Rolex are smaller and (more importantly) thinner than the GS.

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                        • henry_davidH
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                          @JDelage:

                          I have watched many of those Watchfinder videos. That guy has an amazing voice.

                          I have 3 GS so far. I like them very much, especially the simple 3-hand dress watches.

                          GS has the edge on case finish. They may or not have the edge on movements, depending on your priorities. Rolex seems to have the edge on bracelet (maybe) and clasps (consensus). IMHO, Rolex has the edge on convenience / comfort. Look at dive watches or GMTs, and the Rolex are smaller and (more importantly) thinner than the GS.

                          The three handers from GS are  😛 😛 😛 The best there is out there. I would buy one of those any day of the week before a dress watch from another brand (PP included).

                          I do hope that GS thins out its watches a bit… It's hard because the Oyster case just wears so well.

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            Holy buckets this is a great piece. https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-grand-seiko-slga009-white-birch-spring-drive-caliber-9ra2

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • GilesG
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                              The article or the watch…... 😉

                              I'm still Jonesing for this.....

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • GilesG
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                                I can’t believe how much I’ve missed my 50….

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • GraemeG
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                                  H. Moser and the Armoury put out a collaboration watch, the Endeavour Small Seconds Total Eclipse. It's got a 38 mm case, Vantablack dial, and a hand wound movement.

                                  It was produced as a limited edition of 28 in each of two colourways. I like it, but it's already sold out.

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                                  • JDelageJ
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                                    It doesn't do anything for me. Vantablack is a cool material for dials though, and it should be explored more (I know Moser's done other pieces with it.)

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      Vantablack aside, it looks like something Movado would come up with to me. I bet the seconds hand spinning in the void looks cool in the flesh though.

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                      • LewisStonehouseL
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                                        It’s cool but it fails a bit on legibility for me

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                                        • henry_davidH
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                                          The movement tho…

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                                          • ARNCA
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                                            It’s nice but doesn’t quite get there for me. Not worried about legibility (most of the time I wear a single-hander) and Breguet hands always do it for me (maybe because I’m more into clocks than watches). Unlikely, but if I ever saw a watch with trefoil hands …

                                            “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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