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    IH-634-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    • hoppy_IPAH
      hoppy_IPA
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      @wk:

      Hi all,
      I have in my possession my first IH 634-XHS! Ive worn for a couple days now and am looking to get the first wash out of the way.  My only question seems to be regarding turning inside out.  Does it really matter? Is it even possible with denim this heavy!

      Hi @wk

      I’ll go a bit against the grain and say inside out has been meaningless for me.  Machine washing has given me terrible results; inside out, pre soaked or not.

      Hand washing is the way to go IMHO.  Guaranteed results.

      Here’s a pair of machined washed denim from tonight.  Did my best to control marbling but this what usually happens for me:

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      • henry_davidH
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        Seconded @hoppy_IPA. I just don't know wtf I'm doing when it comes to machine wash.

        Inside out + in the tub + hottest water possible + Dr. Bronner's + hand agitation.

        I air dry inside out in the bathroom overnight and then put them on the patio in the sun during the day, turning them rightside out and putting them on while the top block is still a little damp.

        So far no major f#*@ ups over here!  😛

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        • neph93N
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          Hand washing is the safest without a doubt. There’s a consensus (that I have no empirical data on), that US washing machines are pretty harsh on clothes compared to European machines.

          I always machine wash my jeans (40C and max 800rpm), and have never had marbling except that one time my little guy had puked all over my 666-XHS and in all the stress I forgot to turn down the rpm and they went through on 1600. It is the rpm that causes the marbling.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

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            yannis
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            @Neph93, by rpm are you referring to the spin cycle?

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            • neph93N
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              @yannis:

              @Neph93, by rpm are you referring to the spin cycle?

              Yessir. Measured in revolutions per minute. My machine goes from 600-1600rpm. The lower the rpm, the gentler the wash.

              Some machines let you turn off the spin cycle completely.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

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                yannis
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                Yup. I get it now. Usually the higher end machines have that feature of no spin cycle. Also i think the machines with agitators are harder on clothes and jeans in particular than the machnes without.

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                • GilesG
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                  This is fact:

                  US machines are harder on clothes than European machines are harder on clothes than Japanese machines…....

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • hoppy_IPAH
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                    @neph93 & @Giles

                    My washing machine is a "front loader".  Do you suppose that makes a difference compared to the traditional top loading machine? 
                    Ive tried turning the spin completely off; I feel like Ive tried everything and only hand wash is guaranteed not to crease or marble.

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                    • GilesG
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                      I'm not sure.  Ours at home is a front loader too.  I have definitely screwed up a few items by not being sensible about what settings I use. I tend to do 30C and no spin for best results.  I always soak before washing and always turn inside out.  I also try and put more than just one item in the wash, preferably a sweatshirt and pants, I think this "softens" the wash cycle…..

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • neph93N
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                        Front loaders are the norm in  Europe, so no. In fact I’ve heard that top loaders are worse for this, but again I have no personal experience.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                        • neph93N
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                          @Giles:

                          .  I always soak before washing and always turn inside out.

                          I think this is key. I always do it. Two mins inside and out with the shower head then straight in the wash.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                          • ChrisC
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                            Top loaders are more harsh than front loaders, generally speaking. I've also had better results washing jeans with a couple of other items, as Giles said. Typically, I toss in items of varying sizes- a towel, some socks, and a t-shirt or two, for instance. I have no empirical evidence to support this system, but it works pretty well for me.  Oh yeah- wash inside out, light soil cycle, low spin (my machine doesn't give rpms, much to my annoyance).

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                              Thanks for all the washing advice.  I have top load and i havent figured out how to control the time for soak.  I think it drains after 10-15 min regardless of what i do…turning the washer off etc.  I usually go wiht tub soaking/washing which is what I did, and managed to get inside out.  Worked like a charm.

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                                Phil
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                                Hi to everyone,

                                is it normal for legtwist of right leg?

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                                • KasiK
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                                  What not normal about it…

                                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                  The world's insane
                                  While you drink champagne
                                  And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                                  • AppfaffA
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                                    Legtwist on the XHS is normal, especially at larger (34 and up) due to the fact that it is unwashed - similar to how unsanforized denim with shrink in accordance to the twill weave direction, an unwashed denim (like this one) with skew.

                                    I always love have the selvedge line twists and lays on the laces of my chucks in a cool way - like an “if you know, you know” badge of honor!

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                                    • JoberwockyJ
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                                      My 777-XHS has some leg twist predominantly in the right leg, size 34

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        @Phil:

                                        Hi to everyone,

                                        is it normal for legtwist of right leg?

                                        Hi Phil. All my leg twist happens on the right leg, and I have it on nearly all my IH jeans with the exception of 21oz iterations.

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                          Phil
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                                          Thank you, guys!

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            @neph93:

                                            All my leg twist happens on the right leg….

                                            Unless it is left hand twill…..

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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