IH-301S
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Hi! Recently, by chance, I became the owner of practically new IH-301S, and was very surprised when I found that they do not have selvedge on the inside seam of the pant leg, but in other places it is present, I know that there is a part of the 301S with selvedge. for example, which were sold in the Self Edge store, I want to know more about this, since it turns out that these 301Ss, which I got, are of a very old release, and just lay somewhere for a very long time , can anyone share information ..?!
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Hi! Recently, by chance, I became the owner of practically new IH-301S, and was very surprised when I found that they do not have selvedge on the inside seam of the pant leg, but in other places it is present, I know that there is a part of the 301S with selvedge. for example, which were sold in the Self Edge store, I want to know more about this, since it turns out that these 301Ss, which I got, are of a very old release, and just lay somewhere for a very long time , can anyone share information ..?!
The 301S was the first tapered cut offered by IH and was exclusive to Self Edge stores in the US. To achieve the taper Haraki-san felt the simplest method was to cut the taper into the outside hem. This removed the selfedge ID.
When they went on sale many «denimheads» reacted negatively to the lack of the selfedge ID. As a result Haraki-san was asked to find a way to make the jean which retained the selfedge ID. He did so, and later runs have it.
It sounds like your pair is deadstock from the first run. A very rare piece of IH history. I’d love to hear more about where and how you got them.
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@neph93 – Yup, my IH-301S also had the selvedge ID cut off. I happened to snag them in May of 2011 from SESF. Would love to see some pics of your new-to-you jeans, @escanderA!
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@neph93 – Yup, my IH-301S also had the selvedge ID cut off. I happened to snag them in May of 2011 from SESF. Would love to see some pics of your new-to-you jeans, @escanderA!
To be honest, I was very surprised when I found this item at a Japanese auction, and immediately wanted to buy it immediately!
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Since these have selvedge at the fly, these are the newer ones. The OG 301 have no selvedge ID in evidence.
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I wonder what is the approximate release period..?!
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@sabergirl – When did the selvedge ID start getting used at the fly? IIRC mine had the ID there, but no longer have them to check.
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Ah okay. Then I believe mine were v2 with the ID at the fly but still built without the ID line elsewhere. I know that the cotton used was a Zimbabwe cotton, too.
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I have the most recent version of the 21oz and they have selvedge in both the fly and inseam.
I would agree with @sabergirl that these are a V2 release, where as V1 was done in Superblack and 21oz, and both had overlocked seams throughout.
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We have not used Zimbabwean cotton for a VERY long time. Haraki did not tell me that he had changed the cotton because he felt it unimportant because the US cotton he was sourcing was effectively the same as Zimbabwean - no one (and I mean no one) noticed we had changed. Because I did not know or notice, I did not tell anyone of the change, so some jeans were described as being made from Zimbabwean cotton for years after they were not. If you bought jeans from Iron Heart in 2005-2008 then they may have been made from Zimbabwean cotton, otherwise, it's US.
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@Giles – Ah okay. So by the time I got into IH, the switch had already been made but many retailers hadn't been told.
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Correct, nor had they been told. Classic lost in translation between Haraki and me….
What Haraki thinks important is very different from most people.
G - Are these T-shirts loopwheel
H - No idea, why?G - Is this cotton from Zimbabwe
H - No, why. It's the same spec, what's the issue?G - Why do the IH-301S's not have a selvedge outseam?
H - Because it makes no difference to their functionality whether they do or not - the denim is the same either way
