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    manufc10
    Iron Heart Deity
    Joined: 14 Mar 2015

    @Shanman11:

    Very Good info thanks guys !!
    Anyone ever try the Benzak Brand? I just ordered the 066 green cast-RHT 15oz
    I just love the green core fades

    I am not familiar with Benzak but it looks like they use all Italian denim (Candiani mills).  I have owned two pairs of jeans made from Candiani denim and my opinion on Candiani fabrics is that they seem to have a more formal or "dressed up" look and feel to them.  They will generally be lighter in weight, have a much softer hand, and a good number of their fabrics are stretch denim and will be woven with EME (elastomultiester) and/or elastomer.  I'm not saying any of this is good or bad, it's just a matter of opinion.  For me I prefer fabrics that are much more rugged, classic, and have a more workwear type of look and feel which is why I love brands like IH, 3sixteen, and RgT for my jeans.

    I'm not saying that Candiani jeans can't achieve a more informal look, maybe they can, but for me I tend to stay away from them as I prefer a more rugged look and feel overall.  I do like denims that are lighter in weight but I like them to still retain a certain amount of ruggedness a la the IH 14oz fabrics.  There's nothing wrong with Candiani fabrics that I'm aware of as far as quality and they do make some very nice looking fabrics, it's just not my style or personal preference overall.

    Just my two cents.

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      Shanman11
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 6 Sept 2020

      Yes, also, great info, I guess once I saw a green cast 15oz. I was semi sold, made in Japan, Right hand twill, by yes, Collect Mills, cotton is from Zimbabwe originally. They'll be softer, kinda different, funky
      I finally ordered my IH's today !! : 19 oz. Left Hand twill-666S-19L-V2, so stoked for the Real Deal !!
      I figure they'll still be heavy enough for sure
      Thanks man,
      Shan

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        Appfaff
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 11 Oct 2013

        Benzak has been hand making jeans since at least 2007, when I started being active on forums, and he had been at it for a few years at that point.

        I believe he was doing it as a class project for Uni at first and then kept in going - getting better and better every release.

        I’m sure they are high quality and have a good amount of character to the designs. I remember him being a very nice guy as well. Glad his production has expanded to stockists - love hearing success stories in the field, as they are few and far between.

        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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          Shanman11
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 6 Sept 2020

          Yeah he seems like a nice guy for sure, from his vids  😉
          That's a cool story. I know there are many small operations out there trying to make the best product possible because they believe in their vision. I like that and believe in that dream and power. Often these are where the Gems are found, in the rough. But he is far from there for sure and enjoying success it seems to me.
          I'll certainly post pics and let you know the Quality, fit, look and feel etc
          Have a great weekend !!
          Shan

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            Shanman11
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 6 Sept 2020

            Holy Jeebus, either this Rona gut is really getting huge or these 34" Benzak run a size smaller like a 33" : Can't get that top button !! Thumbs are sore. So I'm just saying f'it and wearing them around the house for now hoping I'll stretch that waist band out cause the rest of the fit is spot on and feel great.
            any advice besides just keep wearing them?
            Thanks,  Patrick

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              neph93
              見習いボス
              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              @Shanman11:

              I'm just saying f'it and wearing them around the house for now hoping I'll stretch that waist band out….

              .....any advice besides just keep wearing them?

              If you’re really screwed you may want to try this:

              https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14504.msg647900#msg647900

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
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                Shanman11
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 6 Sept 2020

                This is so awesome !!! lol, Ironically on the way to the hardware right now, might have to ask them if they have an extra or two 2x4 blocks around

                Btw : I got them Buttoned late last night with a coat hanger small loop and some channel locks
                Then I slept in them hahaha !!! Things might work out now that they're buttoned but I took them off for breakfast, coffee etc, back on now that I'm doing so work here at the house….. next I'll scrub the tub with knee pads kneeling  😃

                I'm definitely gonna try this tho, thanks much !!
                Shan

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                  neph93
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  @Shanman11:

                  I'm definitely gonna try this tho, thanks much !!

                  It was corona weight that persuaded me to do it. Worked a treat, but take is slow and easy and keep your eye on the button and seams.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
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                    Shanman11
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 6 Sept 2020

                    maybe I'm being a bit too conservative in my stretching, don't want to blow the button etc, they're still tight but at least I can button them without tools ha ! so there's some progress
                    You must stretch it so you can actually see a bit of stretch eh? I watch the button and just stop when it looks tight but maybe that's just not enough.
                    Of course I'm wearing them nonstop and they're great without underwear (tmi) but the band does bite by the end of the day and I need a break !
                    Cheers and thanks,
                    Patrick

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                      neph93
                      見習いボス
                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                      You have to push it a bit. The potential issues are the side seams and the post of the fly button. When the jeans are stretched without the post bending, then start pushing it one «jack» at a time. In between jacks just check everything over and if nothing is bending or tearing, take one more.

                      Another thing is to try the method from different angles.

                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                      • Virginia Woolf
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                        Shanman11
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 6 Sept 2020

                        Sounds logical, I'll proceed as you describe
                        thanks,
                        P

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                        • motojoboboM
                          motojobobo
                          啓蒙家
                          Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                          These N&F Weird Guy jeans are my most faded pair so far. I’m a very slow fader, they are 5 years old, numerous washes.

                          The journey is the objective.

                          last edited by 20 Aug 2022, 16:00 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • travisxrayT
                            travisxray
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 4 Jan 2023

                            Here is the N&F Elephant 11 Grandrelle super guy. They are a 32 tag, which in hindsight I probably could’ve done a 31 because the waist is pretty loose. However, with the heavyweight of these, the added room of the 32 throughout is nice. I am 5’11 and 170lbs just for reference. Figured I’d post up a picture in case someone was looking to get a pair. I personally love them and they’re very comfortable after the first few wears.

                            last edited by 25 Jan 2023, 13:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • Salted RacerS
                              Salted Racer
                              Haraki san Prodigy
                              Joined: 15 Nov 2021

                              I have these as well–they are very nice cuff flippers aren't they!

                              last edited by 25 Jan 2023, 14:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • travisxrayT
                                travisxray
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 4 Jan 2023

                                Yes they are! Once you cuff them they pretty much stay locked in.

                                last edited by 25 Jan 2023, 14:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • mikebarhootM
                                  mikebarhoot
                                  Iron Heart Deity
                                  Joined: 15 Dec 2015

                                  added the 14oz organic all natural to my ‘collection’ as my honey got a new ride and was told to NOT get indigo on the seats. 🤣

                                  IMG_8844.jpeg

                                  last edited by 29 May 2023, 13:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                  • mikebarhootM
                                    mikebarhoot
                                    Iron Heart Deity
                                    Joined: 15 Dec 2015

                                    fun fact. this is the first pr of sub 21 oz i’ve worn in > 10 years. kinda liberating. you know. like going from tighty whiteys to boxers…

                                    last edited by 29 May 2023, 13:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • motojoboboM
                                      motojobobo
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                                      Ten years after tentatively venturing into japanese denim, these are my best faded pair yet. Definitely still a glacial-paced fader!!
                                      N & F Elephant 5, 20 oz denim, Weird Guy fit

                                      IMG_0601.jpeg

                                      The journey is the objective.

                                      last edited by 15 Sept 2023, 19:39 MizmazzleM 1 Reply Last reply 15 Sept 2023, 21:10 Reply Quote 6
                                      • MizmazzleM
                                        Mizmazzle
                                        見習いボス
                                        @motojobobo
                                        Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                                        @motojobobo hell yeah!! Are those ten years old??

                                        In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

                                        last edited by 15 Sept 2023, 21:10 motojoboboM 1 Reply Last reply 16 Sept 2023, 00:15 Reply Quote 0
                                        • motojoboboM
                                          motojobobo
                                          啓蒙家
                                          @Mizmazzle
                                          Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                                          @Mizmazzle said in Naked & Famous:

                                          @motojobobo hell yeah!! Are those ten years old??

                                          Hey buddy…no, these are a ‘young’ 6-year old pair!!!

                                          The journey is the objective.

                                          last edited by 16 Sept 2023, 00:15 MizmazzleM 1 Reply Last reply 16 Sept 2023, 12:36 Reply Quote 0
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