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    mikebarhoot
    Iron Heart Deity
    Joined: 15 Dec 2015

    Have both WG and 777. Very similar except 777 lower rear rise.

    last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 16:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Shanman11
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 6 Sept 2020

      Very Good info thanks guys !!
      Anyone ever try the Benzak Brand? I just ordered the 066 green cast-RHT 15oz
      I just love the green core fades

      last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 03:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        manufc10
        Iron Heart Deity
        Joined: 14 Mar 2015

        @Shanman11:

        Very Good info thanks guys !!
        Anyone ever try the Benzak Brand? I just ordered the 066 green cast-RHT 15oz
        I just love the green core fades

        I am not familiar with Benzak but it looks like they use all Italian denim (Candiani mills).  I have owned two pairs of jeans made from Candiani denim and my opinion on Candiani fabrics is that they seem to have a more formal or "dressed up" look and feel to them.  They will generally be lighter in weight, have a much softer hand, and a good number of their fabrics are stretch denim and will be woven with EME (elastomultiester) and/or elastomer.  I'm not saying any of this is good or bad, it's just a matter of opinion.  For me I prefer fabrics that are much more rugged, classic, and have a more workwear type of look and feel which is why I love brands like IH, 3sixteen, and RgT for my jeans.

        I'm not saying that Candiani jeans can't achieve a more informal look, maybe they can, but for me I tend to stay away from them as I prefer a more rugged look and feel overall.  I do like denims that are lighter in weight but I like them to still retain a certain amount of ruggedness a la the IH 14oz fabrics.  There's nothing wrong with Candiani fabrics that I'm aware of as far as quality and they do make some very nice looking fabrics, it's just not my style or personal preference overall.

        Just my two cents.

        last edited by 9 Nov 2020, 18:00 11 Sept 2020, 17:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          Shanman11
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 6 Sept 2020

          Yes, also, great info, I guess once I saw a green cast 15oz. I was semi sold, made in Japan, Right hand twill, by yes, Collect Mills, cotton is from Zimbabwe originally. They'll be softer, kinda different, funky
          I finally ordered my IH's today !! : 19 oz. Left Hand twill-666S-19L-V2, so stoked for the Real Deal !!
          I figure they'll still be heavy enough for sure
          Thanks man,
          Shan

          last edited by 12 Sept 2020, 02:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Appfaff
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 11 Oct 2013

            Benzak has been hand making jeans since at least 2007, when I started being active on forums, and he had been at it for a few years at that point.

            I believe he was doing it as a class project for Uni at first and then kept in going - getting better and better every release.

            I’m sure they are high quality and have a good amount of character to the designs. I remember him being a very nice guy as well. Glad his production has expanded to stockists - love hearing success stories in the field, as they are few and far between.

            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

            last edited by 12 Sept 2020, 11:25 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              Shanman11
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 6 Sept 2020

              Yeah he seems like a nice guy for sure, from his vids  😉
              That's a cool story. I know there are many small operations out there trying to make the best product possible because they believe in their vision. I like that and believe in that dream and power. Often these are where the Gems are found, in the rough. But he is far from there for sure and enjoying success it seems to me.
              I'll certainly post pics and let you know the Quality, fit, look and feel etc
              Have a great weekend !!
              Shan

              last edited by 12 Sept 2020, 17:54 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Shanman11
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 6 Sept 2020

                Holy Jeebus, either this Rona gut is really getting huge or these 34" Benzak run a size smaller like a 33" : Can't get that top button !! Thumbs are sore. So I'm just saying f'it and wearing them around the house for now hoping I'll stretch that waist band out cause the rest of the fit is spot on and feel great.
                any advice besides just keep wearing them?
                Thanks,  Patrick

                last edited by 15 Sept 2020, 03:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  neph93
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  @Shanman11:

                  I'm just saying f'it and wearing them around the house for now hoping I'll stretch that waist band out….

                  .....any advice besides just keep wearing them?

                  If you’re really screwed you may want to try this:

                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14504.msg647900#msg647900

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
                  last edited by 15 Sept 2020, 18:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Shanman11
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 6 Sept 2020

                    This is so awesome !!! lol, Ironically on the way to the hardware right now, might have to ask them if they have an extra or two 2x4 blocks around

                    Btw : I got them Buttoned late last night with a coat hanger small loop and some channel locks
                    Then I slept in them hahaha !!! Things might work out now that they're buttoned but I took them off for breakfast, coffee etc, back on now that I'm doing so work here at the house….. next I'll scrub the tub with knee pads kneeling  😃

                    I'm definitely gonna try this tho, thanks much !!
                    Shan

                    last edited by 15 Sept 2020, 19:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      neph93
                      見習いボス
                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                      @Shanman11:

                      I'm definitely gonna try this tho, thanks much !!

                      It was corona weight that persuaded me to do it. Worked a treat, but take is slow and easy and keep your eye on the button and seams.

                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                      • Virginia Woolf
                      last edited by 15 Sept 2020, 19:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Shanman11
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 6 Sept 2020

                        maybe I'm being a bit too conservative in my stretching, don't want to blow the button etc, they're still tight but at least I can button them without tools ha ! so there's some progress
                        You must stretch it so you can actually see a bit of stretch eh? I watch the button and just stop when it looks tight but maybe that's just not enough.
                        Of course I'm wearing them nonstop and they're great without underwear (tmi) but the band does bite by the end of the day and I need a break !
                        Cheers and thanks,
                        Patrick

                        last edited by 17 Sept 2020, 16:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          neph93
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                          You have to push it a bit. The potential issues are the side seams and the post of the fly button. When the jeans are stretched without the post bending, then start pushing it one «jack» at a time. In between jacks just check everything over and if nothing is bending or tearing, take one more.

                          Another thing is to try the method from different angles.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                          • Virginia Woolf
                          last edited by 17 Sept 2020, 16:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            Shanman11
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 6 Sept 2020

                            Sounds logical, I'll proceed as you describe
                            thanks,
                            P

                            last edited by 17 Sept 2020, 16:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • motojoboboM
                              motojobobo
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                              These N&F Weird Guy jeans are my most faded pair so far. I’m a very slow fader, they are 5 years old, numerous washes.

                              The journey is the objective.

                              last edited by 20 Aug 2022, 16:00 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                travisxray
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 4 Jan 2023

                                Here is the N&F Elephant 11 Grandrelle super guy. They are a 32 tag, which in hindsight I probably could’ve done a 31 because the waist is pretty loose. However, with the heavyweight of these, the added room of the 32 throughout is nice. I am 5’11 and 170lbs just for reference. Figured I’d post up a picture in case someone was looking to get a pair. I personally love them and they’re very comfortable after the first few wears.

                                last edited by 25 Jan 2023, 13:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Salted RacerS
                                  Salted Racer
                                  Haraki san Prodigy
                                  Joined: 15 Nov 2021

                                  I have these as well–they are very nice cuff flippers aren't they!

                                  last edited by 25 Jan 2023, 14:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • travisxrayT
                                    travisxray
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 4 Jan 2023

                                    Yes they are! Once you cuff them they pretty much stay locked in.

                                    last edited by 25 Jan 2023, 14:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      mikebarhoot
                                      Iron Heart Deity
                                      Joined: 15 Dec 2015

                                      added the 14oz organic all natural to my ‘collection’ as my honey got a new ride and was told to NOT get indigo on the seats. 🤣

                                      IMG_8844.jpeg

                                      last edited by 29 May 2023, 13:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                                        mikebarhoot
                                        Iron Heart Deity
                                        Joined: 15 Dec 2015

                                        fun fact. this is the first pr of sub 21 oz i’ve worn in > 10 years. kinda liberating. you know. like going from tighty whiteys to boxers…

                                        last edited by 29 May 2023, 13:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • motojoboboM
                                          motojobobo
                                          啓蒙家
                                          Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                                          Ten years after tentatively venturing into japanese denim, these are my best faded pair yet. Definitely still a glacial-paced fader!!
                                          N & F Elephant 5, 20 oz denim, Weird Guy fit

                                          IMG_0601.jpeg

                                          The journey is the objective.

                                          last edited by 15 Sept 2023, 19:39 MizmazzleM 1 Reply Last reply 15 Sept 2023, 21:10 Reply Quote 6
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