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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • SeulS
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        ^So is that illegal in the UK or is it a slipjoint or summat like that?..

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        • DougNgD
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          I thought they were banning all knives with pointed tips

          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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          • SeulS
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            It's a big thing in the UK of course… Knife-related violence is off the scales these days... So it'd be sensible to ban 'm... However the effectiveness of such a ban would be questionable...

            In Belgium it's very reasonable... You can't carry an auto-knife (switchblade, stiletto); you càn carry a pocket knife but it has to be work-related... Say: I'm working and carrying me Sebenza... Fine, as I'm using it whilst working... I'm out at the pub carrying same knife... Offense...

            I, however, won't even attend a funeral without carrying one...

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            • mclaincauseyM
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              I don't understand how banning automatic knives is reasonable. Why does the deployment mechanism matter in terms of public safety? Is it perceived danger to the wielder having the knife spin out of control and injure themselves or someone nearby? A thumb stud or flipper blade can be deployed just as quickly as a partially- or fully-spring assisted blade, and of course fixed blades are already deployed. I'm open to hearing a sound rationale for banning them; my only thought is that automatic opening is generally unnecessary and introduces potential points of failure, and a bad automatic design could deploy accidentally when carried, but those risks should be managed on a case-by-case basis. In the States, I believe the excessive regulation of these is out of ignorance, fear, and stereotypes like the greaser with a switchblade rather than being out of facts, evidence, and sound rationale.

              I also don't think that it's anyone business how I use a knife unless I am threatening or harming someone. So "work-related" is also unreasonable: what if I want to open a personal package or whittle something on my own time? I don't think about all the ways I'm going to use a knife before carrying, I just know blades come in handy from time to time, like any other item in one's EDC.

              Think it, be it.

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              • SeulS
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                Auto-knives are as useless as guns IRL…

                (And I was talking about a general ban of knife-carriage in the UK, not just auto-knives...)

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                • GilesG
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                  @Seul:

                  ^So is that illegal in the UK or is it a slipjoint or summat like that?..

                  No idea on either point.  It's a knife, that's all I know….

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    Yeah, @Seul , I was just taking the chance to attack Belgium 😃

                    Our policies are similarly ridiculous.

                    Rant follows, just ignore me–I didn't know about UK knife law and I'm appalled re: the locking knife ban. That's monumentally stupid. Locking is a safety mechanism. I love my slipjoints, but they are not nearly as safe to the user as a locking blade. Meanwhile, I suppose it's perfectly legal to carry a straight razor (no lock, and bonus points, no point!!), which is far more dangerous to the holder or a victim than a simple Case lockback, for example. And I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that chavs stabbing folks in the street are more likely to use a kitchen knife than a Sebenza anyway.

                    I found the following on what as far as I can tell is not satire, from the Church that was founded because Henry VIII wanted to make it official with his side piece:

                    "We the undersigned are professionals and community leaders from across the UK who call on Government to see the sale of pointed domestic kitchen knives as a thing of the past," reads the not-a-parody open letter from the Diocese of Rochester, signed by church leaders, lawmakers, psychiatrists, academics, and the like. "Historically we needed a point on the end of our knife to pick up food because forks weren't invented. Now we only need the point to open packets when we can't be bothered to find the scissors."

                    Is this real life or an exercise in reductio ad aburdum by the knife lobby? I thought @DougNg was kidding…. A point is for puncturing things as the rest of the blade is for slicing, sawing, chopping, carving, etc. things. The likelihood of those "things" being human flesh is very low. The likelihood of those "things" being your fingers is higher without a lock.

                    Ridiculous.

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • DougNgD
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                      I’m trying my best to stay out of this but I can’t shut up

                      1. Bans are intellectually lazy and never address the actual problem
                      2. If bans worked then prisons wouldn’t have murders or need guards
                      3. If you elect a government that is willing to ban (pick a noun) then someday they will ban something you care about.

                      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                      • goosehdG
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                        @DougNg Preach Brother!

                        Canada’s current approach to anything scary, is to ban.  It’s their way of making people feel safe from the realities of life.  There are good people who follow the rules, and bad people who don’t.  The people who get hurt by bans are often not the intended population and doesn’t address the population that are causing most of the problems.

                        I know there are more things in play than the yin/yang version of life with many different (societal, behavioural, mental) issues at play, but banning is a very lazy way to address those issues.  😢

                        Just my $.02

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                        • DougNgD
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                          4. How many bans would even be up for debate if people once again took personal responsibility for their actions. Answer: few to none. All bans feed into the “cancel culture”. If you’re for one you’re supporting them all.

                          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                          • DougNgD
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                            And firearms are used at least 500,000 a year for justifiable defensive use in the US. That's the conservative estimate. The top end is 2-2.5 million times a year. Depends on who's doing the study and how "justifiable", "defense", and "firearms use" is defined.

                            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                            • mclaincauseyM
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                              At least an argument can be made that guns are for killing. Knives are for all kinds of stuff. Assuming that a simple tool with many, many uses beyond harming people will be used for that one "edge" use adds another layer of ridiculous presumption.

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • DougNgD
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                                Getting one for myself and one for my future daughter in law on the next run (she’s into knives too).

                                Modern interpretation of the v42 raider dagger from WWII

                                This one will go in a shadow box, not for stabby stabby.

                                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                • JDelageJ
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                                  @JDelage:

                                  For those with a few tens of thousands to spare, Anthony Bourdain's chef knife, made by Bob Kramer out of meteorite damascus, is going to be auctioned off:

                                  https://www.igavelauctions.com/auctions/property-from-the-collection-of-anthony-bourdain

                                  Sold for over $300k…

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                                  • AnesthetistA
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                                    This is one my favorite chore knives, a David Boye dendritic cobalt folder. I cant say I carry it often because it’s fairly uncommon and I’d hate to lose it. However, when there is work to be done this knife is the one I always grab. It cuts for days after just a few swipes on my sharpmaker and is a cardboard massacrer. If you need a real slicing machine, I highly recommend one.


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                                    • SeulS
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                                      X-Mas present to myself, inbound…

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                                      • DougNgD
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                                        You’re going to like it, but I suspect the weight in pocket is going to feel weird at first

                                        I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          Thanks Doug. I think I wanted something bigger and heavier actually… Back into heavyweight jeans, and giving up on all pretense of discretion...

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            (It's actually not that much bigger than my Ti-Lock btw… Which is still think is my most beautiful knife...)

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