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    • UnTuckedU
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      @Stuart.T:

      Mixed martial arts

      You lost me, Bro…

      What have I missed about MMA?

      In search of:
      IHV-04, med.
      IHSH-185, large
      IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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      • Stuart.TS
        Stuart.T
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        @UnTucked being a person that has trained in Wing Chun, and looking to restart again, I am really not a fan of the culture that has grown up around it.

        It is a very different sport now to when the Gracie family blew the doors off. Every tattoo necked 20 something lad seems to think they are an MMA legend.

        MMA doesn't train and teach respect (I've had friends train with a top British trainer, and switch to Muy Thai because of that issue). It is primitive, feral, and as a species we have the capability and intellect to evolve beyond that.

        You did ask dude… 😉

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        • UnTuckedU
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          Fair answer!

          There's definitely a dude/bro vibe amongst the fandom, but as a (casual) fan of the sport, I see it, at the professional level, as a meeting grounds for professionals from differing specialties. I can't name a single pro that predominantly trains in an "MMA gym", rather most specialize in BJJ, Greco Roman wrestling, or Muy Thai, with skills training in other disciplines.

          As with most things, we have to take the good with the bad… and unfortunately, the bad is what typically stands out as the "example".

          *Connor McGregor is truly an outlier with his behaviour... most in the sport don't condone it.

          Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

          In search of:
          IHV-04, med.
          IHSH-185, large
          IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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          • UnTuckedU
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            MMA is a sport, not a disciple or martial art

            Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

            In search of:
            IHV-04, med.
            IHSH-185, large
            IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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            • gaseousclayG
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              I was totally harassed by an old lady for parking in front of her house on a public street. In front of my child no less. This woman was clearly batshit crazy [emoji12] told her to go ahead and call the cops if she didn’t like it

              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              WTB:
              IHSH-129 size L (blue)
              IHSH-19

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              • mclaincauseyM
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                @Stuart.T:

                We live in a world of our own creation where social media influencers are actually a thing. Us humans, on balance, are shite.

                I tend to agree, and I tend to disagree. Bear with me:

                I think that humans are capable of anything that the laws of nature allow. The culture surrounding us (which doesn't necessarily emerge solely from human essence) can make our species really great or really terrible. For example, Germans, in my experience, are perfectly normal human beings, but under Hitler these otherwise rational folks adopted the story of Nazi Germany: Teutonic superiority and warrior culture, victimhood at the hands of everyone else post WWI, demonization of Jewish and other peoples and ideologies as the agents of this victimhood, eugenic theory, and a destiny of global dominance of the master race, and these perfectly normal folks did monstrous things that no sane person would countenance, much less participate in. If the human race were to adopt a story of unity, truth, sustainability, exploration, and The Golden Rule, I believe that we could reach the other end of the spectrum of our potential as a species. I guess all that is a restatement of Rousseau's tabula rasa.

                I think about this a lot these days because we truly are operating as a "virus with shoes" in this post-truth, empathy-deprived society, and I don't think that our behavior at large is a reflection of our nature so much as it is the stories that we are living as well as today's economics. If we can survive these stories and the damage they've done to our selves and our planet, we have a chance for our descendants to adopt different stories and for our species to thrive and less resemble a bacterial infection.

                Think it, be it.

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                • organisysO
                  organisys
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                  @Stuart.T:

                  Every tattoo necked 20 something lad seems to think they are an MMA legend.

                  'Showing off is the fool's idea of glory.' - Bruce Lee.

                  Pride of Japan :-)

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                  • organisysO
                    organisys
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                    @Stuart.T:

                    Wearing jogging bottoms outside the house when not actively partaking in sport or exercise

                    😉

                    Pride of Japan :-)

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                    • steelworkerS
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                      @mclaincausey:

                      @Stuart.T:

                      We live in a world of our own creation where social media influencers are actually a thing. Us humans, on balance, are shite.

                      I tend to agree, and I tend to disagree. Bear with me:

                      I think that humans are capable of anything that the laws of nature allow. The culture surrounding us (which doesn't necessarily emerge solely from human essence) can make our species really great or really terrible. For example, Germans, in my experience, are perfectly normal human beings, but under Hitler these otherwise rational folks adopted the story of Nazi Germany: Teutonic superiority and warrior culture, victimhood at the hands of everyone else post WWI, demonization of Jewish and other peoples and ideologies as the agents of this victimhood, eugenic theory, and a destiny of global dominance of the master race, and these perfectly normal folks did monstrous things that no sane person would countenance, much less participate in. If the human race were to adopt a story of unity, truth, sustainability, exploration, and The Golden Rule, I believe that we could reach the other end of the spectrum of our potential as a species. I guess all that is a restatement of Rousseau's tabula rasa.

                      I think about this a lot these days because we truly are operating as a "virus with shoes" in this post-truth, empathy-deprived society, and I don't think that our behavior at large is a reflection of our nature so much as it is the stories that we are living as well as today's economics. If we can survive these stories and the damage they've done to our selves and our planet, we have a chance for our descendants to adopt different stories and for our species to thrive and less resemble a bacterial infection.

                      The German state has acknowledged it's murders and is paying the survivors it can find. It's not much but it's an admission of guilt. We Americans are nowhere near admitting  our responsibility for the slaughter and imprisonment on the 'reservation' of  native Americans and the slavery and murder of black Americans.
                      Not to mention the last 20 years overseas.

                      Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                      Well, I have others.

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                      • steelworkerS
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                        As for human survival… I think we've done ourselves in. Elvis has left the building.
                        Looks like you and me, @Stuart.T ! 😃
                        But don't get smart or it'll just be me… 😉

                        Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                        Well, I have others.

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                        • Matty123M
                          Matty123
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                          Vogue says a guy names Ben Taverniti is trying to make denim…. and get this “Cool Again”

                          Why I oughta

                          Thanks Ben, we got that covered here.  😠

                          https://www.vogue.com/slideshow/ben-taverniti-hudson-jeans-unravel/amp

                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                          • Stuart.TS
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                            @Matty123 to use a very British vernacular, what a bunch of wankers…style never goes out of fashion.

                            @steelworker you'd be safe buddy, I'm a veggie. That said, any port in a storm  😛

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                            • neph93N
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                              @Matty123:

                              Vogue says a guy names Ben Taverniti is trying to make denim…. and get this “Cool Again”

                              Why I oughta

                              Thanks Ben, we got that covered here.  😠

                              https://www.vogue.com/slideshow/ben-taverniti-hudson-jeans-unravel/amp

                              You lost me at "Vogue"…  😉

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                              • Dame Vera Lynn
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                              • GilesG
                                Giles
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                                From the article….

                                "The comment acted at the time as an official death knell for denim in the world of high-end fashion."

                                Well, thank god for that…..

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • hajdukH
                                  hajduk
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                                  Still from the article:

                                  “….But a jean shouldn’t be a trend—it should be a foundation into a closet… I’ll do anything I can to do it!....”[emoji2955][emoji1][emoji1][emoji3577]

                                  the foundations are in place at my home! Into my closet exactly…thanks for that Giles![emoji6][emoji4]

                                  Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

                                  "Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have" James Baldwin.

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                                  • Megatron1505M
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                                    When the wife says “find a place for these or they’re being donated to charity”  😢

                                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                    • GilesG
                                      Giles
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                                      I can't see Tommy in that photo…..

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • Megatron1505M
                                        Megatron1505
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                                        No charities will take him, and believe me i’ve tried. Even Save The Children said that their name wasn’t Save Us From The Children  😢

                                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          Try "Save the Ginger Bastards"…

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                                          • louisboscoL
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                                            FFS. don't tell me i have a delivery coming tomorrow because the scheduled delivery is for tomorrow and then deliver the item today.

                                            "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                                            • Harvey Specter
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