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    • DougNgD
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      I've worn Fivefingers for casual wear for years. It actually makes total sense that the Army banned all toes shoes. Try walking on gravel in them…

      Or a pile of brass, did that once...ONCE

      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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      • UnTuckedU
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        @DougNg:

        I've worn Fivefingers for casual wear for years. It actually makes total sense that the Army banned all toes shoes. Try walking on gravel in them…

        Or a pile of brass, did that once...ONCE

        It was only because they considered them "trendy"… the was also a time when you could only wear white socks that came alive the ankle, and your sneakers had to be considered not flashy in appearance (no colorful shoes).

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        In search of:
        IHV-04, med.
        IHSH-185, large
        IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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        • nurunuruN
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          @UnTucked:

          @DougNg:

          I've worn Fivefingers for casual wear for years. It actually makes total sense that the Army banned all toes shoes. Try walking on gravel in them…

          Or a pile of brass, did that once...ONCE

          It was only because they considered them "trendy"… the was also a time when you could only wear white socks that came alive the ankle, and your sneakers had to be considered not flashy in appearance (no colorful shoes).

          Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

          Yep.  This quote is from the Washington Post article on the matter.  It seems to be presented as a verbatim release from the Army.

          "There are a variety of minimalist running shoes available for purchase and wear. Effective immediately, only those shoes that accommodate all five toes in one compartment are authorized for wear. Those shoes that feature five separate, individual compartments for the toes, detract from a professional military image and are prohibited for wear with the IPFU or when conducting physical training in military formation."

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          • GilesG
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            Do they do a 4 finger version?

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • UnTuckedU
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              I'm sure they'll be happy to accommodate if you threaten to sue them for amputee discrimination lol

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              In search of:
              IHV-04, med.
              IHSH-185, large
              IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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              • BloodnThunderB
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                Five fingers and the like can be really good as supplemental footwear or for LSD (long, slow distance) but using them as your primary shoe when you have a structured training plan which includes track intervals, thresholds, and tempos is something I would strongly advise against.

                At the end of the day I just look at what the top runners in the world are wearing in training.  It's a combination of mid-weight trainers with mild support on most base mileage days and lightweight racing flats for workouts (occasionally spikes for track work).

                IG: Shadesofindig0

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                • DougNgD
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                  I stand corrected.

                  I personally like the Five Fingers. They were really comfortable walking around all day.

                  My buddy at work (who is formerly an orthopedic surgeon and still an avid runner) says that I am just overtraining.

                  Which is cool, anything worth doing is worth overdoing 🙂

                  I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                  • ChrisC
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                    You'll feel differently after that first stress fracture. 😉

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                      @DougNg:

                      Yeah, I think I'm going to get evaluated next time I need to get sneakers. I'm currently wearing Mizuno Wave Rider 21s

                      They're adequate, although they don't last more than 250 miles for me

                      This seems ridiculously low. I wear New Balance 1080 as my standard running shoes (I also have NB Zante for a bit of speed) and I will get 600 miles minimum out of a pair. My current pair are heading towards 750 and feel fine, there is no excessive wear or tear anywhere and the midsole still seems to have adequate cushion and bounce.

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                      • N
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                        From the run today, at Hall Ranch- Lyons, Colorado.

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                          cander49
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                          Running the Mesa-Phoenix marathon next weekend! Looking forward to it! Re shoes, i run almost exclusively in light-weight racing flats, and I'm fairly convinced they reduce muscular injuries for me. Big, cushioned shoes haven't been shown to effectively reduce stress on the body, and some recent work has indicated that they may, in fact, increase the impact of running. I think the most important thing is to just run in a shoe that's comfortable for you. I will say that I rarely keep shoes past 400 miles any more. My toes blow out big holes in the uppers of most shoes by 350-400 miles, and it's rare that the soles are in good shape past that point anyway. Fortunately, my favorite training shoes of late have been Nike Streaks and Speed Rivals, and both are easy to get for quite cheap.

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                          • DougNgD
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                            My issue with the Mizunos is not he cushioning after 250 miles, the bottoms are almost completely smooth.

                            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                              I’ve just realised that the outside of my 1080s is wearing out at the front, under the toes, didn’t realise I was a dainty tie-striker! I have another pair ready to go though. I’ve been running more regularly in my lighter-weight, less-cushioned Zantes and enjoying those a lot.

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                              • ChrisC
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                                Yeah, I guess Mizuno uses a softer rubber compound to improve cushioning and/or traction, but it's definitely at the price of durability.  Speaking of rubber compounds; I'm intrigued by innov-8's graphene rubber.  I like their trail shoes a lot and the idea of better grip and better durability sounds magic.

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                                  @cander49 Good luck and crush it! You’ve been looking pretty freakin fast on Strava lately.

                                  I used to really like New Balance, but they stopped making the Leadville series, which were the ones I used. I’ve tried some of the brands suggested, but have largely ran/hiked/scrambled in Salomons for the past few years. The Sense Ride are probably my current favorite trail shoe, with the S/lab Ultra in second place. Their rubber seems pretty sticky and wears reasonably.

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                                  • den1mheadD
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                                    Thanks for the tip @cander49 on the racing flats you mentioned in your post. I've just purchased a pair of Nike Air Zoom Streak LT4 for a steal on the bay [emoji106]
                                    Good luck in your upcoming event

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                                      Thanks guys! The Streak LT4 is actually a different shoe than the Streak that I've been running in lately, but it's still a great shoe. If you're changing things up dramatically, shoe wise, I'd definitely ease into it. Major changes can be hard on the legs!

                                      Interesting re the Sense. Glad to hear they're lasting for you. A couple friends of mine had worn them out awfully quickly, so I never really gave them a chance for how much they cost. I've never really found a trail running shoe that replicates what I currently like in road shoes, so I've just been trail running in the Speed Rivals lately. Unless there's a ton of snow, they actually work super well for me.

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                                        Wasn't quite at 100%, but PRd by a little over a minute. Yes, my nipple is bleeding profusely here. 😃

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                                          Well done cander, that truly was blood, sweat and tears! What was your time?

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                                            @cander49 well done! Looks like his time was 2:37:45 and 12th place overall. Impressive!

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