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    Chris
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

    You'll feel differently after that first stress fracture. 😉

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      Maynard Friedman
      Joined: 3 Jan 2013

      @DougNg:

      Yeah, I think I'm going to get evaluated next time I need to get sneakers. I'm currently wearing Mizuno Wave Rider 21s

      They're adequate, although they don't last more than 250 miles for me

      This seems ridiculously low. I wear New Balance 1080 as my standard running shoes (I also have NB Zante for a bit of speed) and I will get 600 miles minimum out of a pair. My current pair are heading towards 750 and feel fine, there is no excessive wear or tear anywhere and the midsole still seems to have adequate cushion and bounce.

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        neversummer
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        Joined: 21 Mar 2017


        From the run today, at Hall Ranch- Lyons, Colorado.

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          cander49
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 8 Apr 2015

          Running the Mesa-Phoenix marathon next weekend! Looking forward to it! Re shoes, i run almost exclusively in light-weight racing flats, and I'm fairly convinced they reduce muscular injuries for me. Big, cushioned shoes haven't been shown to effectively reduce stress on the body, and some recent work has indicated that they may, in fact, increase the impact of running. I think the most important thing is to just run in a shoe that's comfortable for you. I will say that I rarely keep shoes past 400 miles any more. My toes blow out big holes in the uppers of most shoes by 350-400 miles, and it's rare that the soles are in good shape past that point anyway. Fortunately, my favorite training shoes of late have been Nike Streaks and Speed Rivals, and both are easy to get for quite cheap.

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            DougNg
            Joined: 24 Sept 2009

            My issue with the Mizunos is not he cushioning after 250 miles, the bottoms are almost completely smooth.

            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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              Maynard Friedman
              Joined: 3 Jan 2013

              I’ve just realised that the outside of my 1080s is wearing out at the front, under the toes, didn’t realise I was a dainty tie-striker! I have another pair ready to go though. I’ve been running more regularly in my lighter-weight, less-cushioned Zantes and enjoying those a lot.

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                Chris
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                Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                Yeah, I guess Mizuno uses a softer rubber compound to improve cushioning and/or traction, but it's definitely at the price of durability.  Speaking of rubber compounds; I'm intrigued by innov-8's graphene rubber.  I like their trail shoes a lot and the idea of better grip and better durability sounds magic.

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                  neversummer
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                  Joined: 21 Mar 2017

                  @cander49 Good luck and crush it! You’ve been looking pretty freakin fast on Strava lately.

                  I used to really like New Balance, but they stopped making the Leadville series, which were the ones I used. I’ve tried some of the brands suggested, but have largely ran/hiked/scrambled in Salomons for the past few years. The Sense Ride are probably my current favorite trail shoe, with the S/lab Ultra in second place. Their rubber seems pretty sticky and wears reasonably.

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                    den1mhead
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 6 Oct 2014

                    Thanks for the tip @cander49 on the racing flats you mentioned in your post. I've just purchased a pair of Nike Air Zoom Streak LT4 for a steal on the bay [emoji106]
                    Good luck in your upcoming event

                    Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk

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                      cander49
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                      Joined: 8 Apr 2015

                      Thanks guys! The Streak LT4 is actually a different shoe than the Streak that I've been running in lately, but it's still a great shoe. If you're changing things up dramatically, shoe wise, I'd definitely ease into it. Major changes can be hard on the legs!

                      Interesting re the Sense. Glad to hear they're lasting for you. A couple friends of mine had worn them out awfully quickly, so I never really gave them a chance for how much they cost. I've never really found a trail running shoe that replicates what I currently like in road shoes, so I've just been trail running in the Speed Rivals lately. Unless there's a ton of snow, they actually work super well for me.

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                        cander49
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                        Joined: 8 Apr 2015

                        Wasn't quite at 100%, but PRd by a little over a minute. Yes, my nipple is bleeding profusely here. 😃

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                          Maynard Friedman
                          Joined: 3 Jan 2013

                          Well done cander, that truly was blood, sweat and tears! What was your time?

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                            neversummer
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 21 Mar 2017

                            @cander49 well done! Looks like his time was 2:37:45 and 12th place overall. Impressive!

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                              cander49
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 8 Apr 2015

                              Yeah, 2:37:45. There was blood and sweat, but fortunately no tears.  Haha. Despite how I look there, this was probably the least directly painful marathon I've had in awhile. I felt like crap the whole way this time, but I wasn't quite as thrashed at the finish as I usually am.  😃 😃

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                                nurunuru
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 16 May 2018

                                Outstanding work!  I can very safely say you will never find me running at 10 mph for 26.2 miles.  That kind of time just blows my mind.  I was happy just to average 6 mph for my one-and-only marathon!

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                                  AdamJ
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 29 Jun 2017

                                  @cander49:

                                  Wasn't quite at 100%, but PRd by a little over a minute. Yes, my nipple is bleeding profusely here. 😃

                                  Strong effort, well done mate

                                  The devil is in the detail..

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                                    den1mhead
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                                    Joined: 6 Oct 2014

                                    @AdamJ:

                                    Strong effort, well done mate

                                    Agreed. Exceptional time, effort, committment. [emoji122][emoji122]

                                    Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk

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                                      neversummer
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 21 Mar 2017

                                      Finally signed up for races for 2019. Heading back to The Ouray 100 to try to better my time of 45:56 from last year. https://www.ouray100.com/
                                      My trip report from last year: http://www.hikingrmnp.org/2018/08/2018-ouray-100.html
                                      There is also a documentary about it on Amazon if you are a prime member.
                                      Also signed up for the Plain 100 in Washington in September. http://www.plain100.com/
                                      Looks like that will be pretty hard, but in a different way. Essentially self supported, no pacers, no aid stations, and no course marking. Apparently people have gotten lost for hours on one part of the course. I’m arriving two days ahead of time to check out that section a few times. Should be fun… in some sense of the word.

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                                        BloodnThunder
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 20 May 2015

                                        The Plain 100 is in some beautiful country.  Definitely looks like a fun race….  If you're into running 100 miles all at once.

                                        IG: Shadesofindig0

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                                          kkibbey23
                                          Haraki san Prodigy
                                          Joined: 16 Oct 2013

                                          I have heard of plain 100 and know someone who signed up. Sounds like a really crazy race!

                                          I just came across this post! Idk how I've missed it for so long[emoji23] sorry for the long ish post…

                                          Anyway I started running years ago for weight loss and did my first marathon in 2012 ans have done 50+ marathon or greater distances. 5 of those 50milers, 100k and 1 100m.

                                          I'm not fast my PR for marathon is 3:42, although that being said that was pre trail roadie days. I seemed to slow down a bit when I got on the trail.

                                          My milage and races have kinda died down a bit after my last 100M (Oil Creek 100) and I would consider what Ive done is enough to finish/survive a 50k/marathon.

                                          Im looking at a few 50 milers this year and maybe a fall 100. So now im in the building phase of training.  I really wanna be around mid 40s, my last few weeks were mid 20s so not too far to go.

                                          Trail stuff im looking at is cayuga trails 50M/mohican 50 then looking at some 100Ms for the fall. These are all races I've done and at least know what im getting into

                                          I'm in the strava group already too[emoji846]

                                          Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

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