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    • DionD
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      It's not mandatory that ManUnited is delivering exciting performances after the SAF era again. World class coaches like LvG and Mou failed at this task. Of course Solskjaer's team needs to show good performances against bigger clubs as well but if it does I don't see anything against him continuing being United's manager.

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      • manufc10M
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        i'll agree with the fact they are playing better. no more lukaku takes a touch and dribbles to london, more of one touch and go. but in all honesty as a united fan, the past few games should be wins regardless of mou or solskjaer. the real test is next week against spurs which will tell what difference he brings to the table..

        This is such an old and tired argument that has been regurgitated by a few pundits in the media over and over that I completely disagree with.  These are wins a United side SHOULD win but under Mou they were wins that we were never guaranteed.  Let's be honest here.  You're blind or just being stubborn if you can't say that you see any difference that Ole has brought to the table thus far.  The difference is night and day.

        I'm not getting excited just yet either as I do agree we haven't had a real test thus far, but to say that we have to wait until the game at Wembley to see the real difference that Ole has made is absurd.  We have won 5 in a row, won several of them in old United fashion, kept two clean sheets, outscored opponents 16-3, and probably more important than anything we are playing with smiles on our faces and a freedom and confidence that we never had under Mou.

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        • neph93N
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          ^ agreed with the above. My point is that it’s getting rid of José that has made the difference, not bringing in Solskjær.

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          • manufc10M
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            @neph93:

            ^ agreed with the above. My point is that it’s getting rid of José that has made the difference, not bringing in Solskjær.

            Ah…very true.  Agreed.

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            • louisboscoL
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              i'm going to admit that i'll probably be a bit of both, blind and stubborn. as much as i'm a huge united fan through and through, i'm also a big fan of Mourinho. And ever since SAF retired, i've been waiting for the day he comes to united. so i'm a little bias on that topic..

              i personally don't think their styles differ much. especially SAF and his tactics of the later years. where mourinho lost it was the respect and chemistry in the changing room amongst his players and staff..

              "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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              • manufc10M
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                @louisbosco:

                i'm going to admit that i'll probably be a bit of both, blind and stubborn. as much as i'm a huge united fan through and through, i'm also a big fan of Mourinho. And ever since SAF retired, i've been waiting for the day he comes to united. so i'm a little bias on that topic..

                i personally don't think their styles differ much. especially SAF and his tactics of the later years. where mourinho lost it was the respect and chemistry in the changing room amongst his players and staff..

                I'll disagree on that as well, their styles differ quite drastically IMO.  SAF had a much more attack minded approach that was more free flowing and entertaining to watch.  You score one goal then go for two, score the second now go for the third, etc…I think this is reflected now in their play with Ole in charge as he was a student of that style under SAF.  I watch highlights of the days when Tevez, Rooney, and Ronaldo would tear down the pitch on a counterattack and slice defenses apart and it brings a slight tear to my eye.

                Mou seemed to have a much more defensive approach.  Score 1, maybe 2, then park the bus and bore the spectators to tears while you defend the rest of the game.  I definitely agree that is where Mou lost it (respect and chemistry amongst the players and staff) and that's the most obvious reflection right there that you're not doing your job as a manager as that is one of their most important roles. We have seen that play itself out as proof with his United stint and also IIRC this is exactly what happened with his last Chelsea stint is it not?

                I think the players are changing with the modern game.  You can't constantly critisize and blame your players publicly like he does.  Today's players don't react well to that.  Do you ever see Pep or Klopp do that?  Mou was just a cancer in the United camp and he had to go.  Hopefully he can succeed at his next stint but it obviously wasn't working at United.

                In his defense though I will say he is absolutely right that we desperately need new life in the back line, specifically a CB or two.  We are flying high right now but we can't let it mask the fact that our back line isn't the quality we need to really compete against the.big.boys of europe and the PL for that matter.  We desperately need to sign Koulibaly, that man is a beast of a CB.

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                • AdamJA
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                  After promising he would never leave mid-season unless it was Barcelona, Luton's manager has just left for Stoke City on the eve of our biggest game of the season.

                  Money talks  😢

                  The devil is in the detail..

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                  • manufc10M
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                    @AdamJ:

                    After promising he would never leave mid-season unless it was Barcelona, Luton's manager has just left for Stoke City on the eve of our biggest game of the season.

                    Money talks  😢

                    Everyone and everything has a price.

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                    • manufc10M
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                      Jesus Man City is relentless today against Burton Albion.  Give them a break already.

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                      • bryaneidins70B
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                        They should adopt the same rule as my sons under 10s league. When one team go down by 5 they can bring on an extra player  😃

                        'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                        • louisboscoL
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                          DAVID DE GEA!!!!! BOY HE'S GOT HIS CONFIDENCE BACK!

                          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                            @louisbosco:

                            DAVID DE GEA!!!!! BOY HE'S GOT HIS CONFIDENCE BACK!

                            So does the whole damn team.  Fuck yeah that was a good win!  I believe Ole also proved he can manage and put a strategy in place.  The first half Spurs struggled with Ole's tactics and couldn't get a whole lot going.  Second half was a different story obviously once Spurs adapted to Ole's tactics and changed formations.

                            With that being said, we still need to sign a god damn CB though and we can't ignore that weakness.  I'm a broken record I know but holy shit we can't keep getting away with giving up that many chances.  We need a proper back line in front of DeGea to really get back to the level we need to be at.  I think we can get close with the signing of a solid CB, preferably Koulibaly…hell it needs to be Koulibaly.

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                            • AdamJA
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                              @manufc10 @louisbosco  If Spurs don't finish in the top 4 this season I reckon Alderweireld could be tempted away by Utd to be honest.

                              Utd seem compelled to spend 30m on a Centre Back every season or so, one of them has to be decent eventually  😃

                              The devil is in the detail..

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                              • manufc10M
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                                @manufc10 @louisbosco  If Spurs don't finish in the top 4 this season I reckon Alderweireld could be tempted away by Utd to be honest.

                                Utd seem compelled to spend 30m on a Centre Back every season or so, one of them has to be decent eventually  😃

                                Lindelof is a 30m spend that actually has been doing very well lately so maybe he will be the one.

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                                • AdamCA
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                                  @manufc10 Gotta say I'm starting to agree, I have been a heavy critic of Lindelof but he has strung some decent performances together, notably against Juve and Ronaldo last year.  He still has a horrible clanger in the locker every now and again though!

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                                  • manufc10M
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                                    Indeed he does.  Again I'm a broken record but we just flat out need a world class CB cause we don't have one at the moment.

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                                    • louisboscoL
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                                      i feel that, given time, bailly and lindelof can form a good partnership akin to ferdinand and vidic. however both of them seem very injury prone and a little rash with challenges at times. especially bailly..

                                      "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                      • manufc10M
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                                        @louisbosco:

                                        i feel that, given time, bailly and lindelof can form a good partnership akin to ferdinand and vidic. however both of them seem very injury prone and a little rash with challenges at times. especially bailly..

                                        Yep.  Bailly has so much potential IMO and I think he could learn a lot from Koulibaly if he ends up coming here, Lindelof as well.

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                                        • AdamJA
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                                          All Bailly needs is some confidence - not being hauled off after 30 minutes against Newcastle and being on the bench for the following 3 weeks!

                                          As said above, a decent and experienced CB partner would do him wonders

                                          The devil is in the detail..

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                                          • 501IH5
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                                            I'm a temporary Liverpudlian today. Hoping for total and utter humiliation…

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