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    • mclaincauseyM
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      The recursive and paradoxical nature of their time travel and causality model* after the first film and how it makes a final resolution impossible is as frustrating as it is lucrative for setting up a franchise. But I did enjoy T2 even while being bothered by the paradox.

      *See "bootstrap paradox": skynet was enabled by the technology discovered when skynet sent the technology back in time to eliminate one of skynet's enemies. The explanation of the technology's origination is an endless recursion with no "base case" such as an alien intervened, or some sort of super genius had an epiphany, etc. T1 lacked any such paradox, as skynet was something that the DoD and Cyberdyne developed and lost control of. There was no future technology that enabled the network.

      Think it, be it.

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      • gaseousclayG
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        @Chris:

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        Looked promising but then just falls apart.

        Yeah. It's a shame the movies have been so bad.  I really liked The Sarah Conner Chronicles, so it's possible to do decent stories in that universe.  For whatever reason, they just haven't been able to do a decent movie after T2.

        Maybe Cameron and Hamilton can do it…

        I never saw T3 but the last two movies didn’t make much sense imo because they disrupted the timeline. But, being a time travel movie they took creative license to reboot everything.

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        • ChrisC
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          T3 was pretty bad. You didn't miss much.

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            I think you'd probably have to have alternate timelines / parallel universes to reconcile even what was done in T2 and T3 as it pertains to the time travel piece, though the latter was so forgettable that I can't recall the time travel aspects. And once you get into that territory (parallel universes), you don't even need time travel as a mechanism for endless possibilities (ie shaping the plot to drive a franchise). I think that's what they do with Spiderman, or so I've heard.

            Side note: I believe there is an infinite number of parallel universes. Instead of time travel, the ability to jump between them could be an interesting sci fi device: jumping between a manifold of universes in which everything that can happen, does.

            Think it, be it.

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            • gaseousclayG
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              Ok, aside from Terminator, name some decent time travel movies. I think the last one I saw was Looper and before that it was Primer. Can’t think of anything recent.

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              • Paul9221P
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                @gaseousclay:

                Ok, aside from Terminator, name some decent time travel movies. I think the last one I saw was Looper and before that it was Primer. Can’t think of anything recent.

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                Twelve Monkeys!

                Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                • mclaincauseyM
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                  I like all three of those, especially Primer. I also like Time Bandits, Army of Darkness, Back to the Future, Donnie Darko, and if we're liberal with the term "time travel," Groundhog Day and Idiocracy.

                  Think it, be it.

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                  • gaseousclayG
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                    I should’ve clarified, what are some recent time travel movies? All the ones mentioned are good, just looking for something I’ve never seen before

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                    • nurunuruN
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                      @gaseousclay:

                      I should’ve clarified, what are some recent time travel movies? All the ones mentioned are good, just looking for something I’ve never seen before

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                      I really enjoyed Red Letter Media's latest full-length movie, Space Cop.  Slobby cop from the future ends up in modern-day Wisconsin with an over-achieving cop from the past.

                      I have no clue what someone who wasn't already an RLM fan would think of it, though  😃

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                      • ChrisC
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                        Not really recent, but Frequency is a solid movie with a time travel-ish concept.  X-Men: Days Of Future Past was unexpectedly good, considering how much the X-Men movies have sucked recently.

                        And it's a tv show, and an old (2006) one at that, but Day Break is a single season series that I really liked.  It used Groundhog Day style "time travel", but it was pretty well done, and it had a good cast.

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          I did like Frequency and forgot to mention Interstellar, which would be recent.

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                            @gaseousclay:

                            Ok, aside from Terminator, name some decent time travel movies. I think the last one I saw was Looper and before that it was Primer. Can’t think of anything recent.

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                            Hot Tub Time Machine?  😃

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                            • Paul9221P
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                              X-Men Days of Future Past was a real pleasant surprise. The wife and I both liked that one.

                              Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                The Time Traveler’s Wife is a very watchable piece.

                                https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0452694/

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                                • steelworkerS
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                                  Way back in the day Time after Time and Jacob's Ladder ,time travel and horror

                                  Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                                  Well, I have others.

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                                  • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                    Saw Vice tonight. It was well acted. But very morbid and depressing. We're not supposed to talk about politics so I won't say much else.

                                    I came home to what looked like a murder on my top steps. We were afraid to approach the house out of fear that there was actually a real murder and called the police. They made it in under 3 minutes.  It turns out it was a deer. There was blood everywhere. It was really disturbing especially after seeing that movie. I helped the game warden load the deer into his truck. I got blood all over me. 😕

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                                    • nurunuruN
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                                      Well that's an unnerving thing to come home to. Any idea what killed it?

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                                      • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                        Well that's an unnerving thing to come home to. Any idea what killed it?

                                        A broad head arrow from a hunter and it ran into my new railing I had put up earlier this year. It was so gruesome.

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                                          That's horrible. Poor deer.

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                                            Watched a few pictures the past few days (instead of studying, so I'm feeling guilty but at the same time cinemeducated):

                                            Galveston - Nice, gritty, sort of a story without story except a very broad one. I like movies like this BUT I prefer them without annoying little kids; kids and movies don't go together. 6/10

                                            Manchester by the Sea - Like above, the story was more like a framework for minute conversations, feelings and emotions. Good. Chasey Afleck was like a poor man's Ryan Gosling in this. 8/10

                                            Beirut - Exciting bits here and there but overall, I'd call it a very Hollywood-style failure. 4/10

                                            Mystic River - Can't believe this came out in 2003 yet I only watched it now. Very good - if convoluted in places - and seems to confirm that C. Eastwood is unable to come up with anything less than excellent (not counting the one about preventing a terror strike in Paris-bound train, forgot the name, that's was laughably bad). 8/10

                                            Molly's Game - A story worth telling, and I've been led to believe this stayed pretty true to the actual facts. Not very exciting and ultimately, the build-up led to nowhere in particular, which further adds credibility to the "based on a true story" concept. 7/10

                                            To Rome with Love - Like I've noted before, I somehow watch everything Woody does despite rarely really enjoying them and this was trademark Woody in all the aspects that I don't like about his work. Repulsive characters and comedy that was seldom funny. Plus it had Jesse "The least talented A-lister" Eisenberg in it which leads to automatic points-deduction. 4/10 cos it had its moments.

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