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    There's no Such Thing as a Stupid Question

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      cander49
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      Not sure where better to ask… @Giles or anyone else, are a few subforums down lately, or is that just from my end? The buying and selling area seems down unless you already have a link to follow for a specific thread. I've seen one or two others give an issue, though I can't remember which they were.

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      • GilesG
        Giles
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        No issues here.  Anyone else?

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          cander49
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          @Giles, this is what shows up for me if I click buying amd selling. I can still see individual threads if I have the link, but I can't see the main subforum. This has happened to me on another subforum or two, but I don't recall which ones they were.

          Edit… Idk if there was some kind of cookie problem or something, but I logged out and back in, and now everything is all good.

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          • SreeniS
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            Hello,

            I ordered about 10 yards of selvedge chambray fabric from a mill. The seller said that he would free the yardage if I wrote some good things about the mill on the internet. Although there was an option to get the fabric shipped with the tracking option, I chose to get it shipped without the tracking option to reduce the cost. In all, I paid USD 35. The seller dispatched the package and said that it will take two months to reach my doorstep.

            The problem is that the package never arrived and seems to have been "lost". Now that I have escalated it to PayPal, the seller is saying that he is not responsible because:

            a) the fabrics were free and I only paid for shipping
            b) I chose the option of shipping without tracking

            I am waiting for PayPal to give their final decision on whether I should get a refund.

            But who do you think is responsible in this case? I would like to know your thoughts.

            Thank you for reading!

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            • GilesG
              Giles
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              You.

              You chose to ship something you were given free, untracked.  I don't think there is any question I am afraid.

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • spitfiredealerS
                spitfiredealer
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                Yep completely you.

                You took the risk and it didn’t work out. You win some you lose some.

                Cancel the PayPal dispute and put it down to a life lesson

                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                • scooterS
                  scooter
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                  Free product. 2 month shipping time, without tracking. A couple of old proverbs come to mind…

                  " If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. "
                  " A fool and his money will soon be parted. "

                  If Paypal finds in your favor, consider yourself VERY lucky. If they don't, consider yourself lucky it wasn't more than $35. Either way, it's a cheap lesson.

                  Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

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                  • SreeniS
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                    Thanks for the replies @Giles @scooter @spitfiredealer !

                    And yes, it is a life lesson, irrespective of what PayPal decides.

                    I am still looking to buy a few yards of Japanese denim. Apart from dryselvedge.com and Pacific Blue Denims, are there other reliable sellers who sell smaller quantities of selvedge denim?

                    Thanks!

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                    • SreeniS
                      Sreeni
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                      Quick update - PayPal decided in my favour. I am going to be more careful and read PayPal's tips for buyers. Thanks again!

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                      • GilesG
                        Giles
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                        Totally unfair.  I feel very sorry for the "seller", not that he even sold you anything….

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • spitfiredealerS
                          spitfiredealer
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                          yeah me too. Seems like you ripped him off

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                          • Matty123M
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                            However… he did pay for shipping and got nothing right? So Shipping was reimbursed? I don’t see big deal.

                            Maybe so. Maybe not

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                            • DrBabyhorseD
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                              @Matty123:

                              However… he did pay for shipping and got nothing right? So Shipping was reimbursed? I don’t see big deal.

                              It’s hard to say since we don’t know what really happened. Assuming the “seller” did actually ship the denim, then this seems like an unfortunate situation for all envolved. Lesson learned for everybody. But if the “seller” never shipped anything, regardless of whether or not the “buyer” paid for tracking, then this is just plain dishonest. In any case, the stakes were low. I think you can chalk it up as a win given the outcome. Always get tracking.

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                              • ChrisC
                                Chris
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                                So the manufacturer shipped 10 yards of fabric (without payment) that disappeared somewhere in international transit.  Now they have to pay for something that isn't their fault?

                                Yeah, this is what makes people hate PayPal.  But since it's a faceless company that got screwed over, no big deal, I guess.

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                                • SreeniS
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                                  A few points –

                                  1. It was the seller who proposed to free 8 yards if I could write a few good things about him on networks like Twitter, Instagram, and Reddit. From his perspective, he was giving away a few remaining yards of fabric to get a little attention on the internet. And the seller doesn't have a lot of presence on the internet.

                                  2. I was happy to find someone who didn't have a Minimum Order Quantity. So I was willing to pay the price of the fabric.

                                  3. It was the postal company which lost the package. The seller should be claiming compensation from them, IMO. There must be some compensation, albeit low, for non-delivery where tracking hasn't been enabled.

                                  4. I spent more than three months chasing the seller. I was even ready for any deal for lighter fabrics as long as I got some discount for the money I had lost. I had to escalate it simply because I didn't hear anything from the seller and it was over 120 days since the transaction. I did my best to settle this amicably.

                                  5. According to PayPal's rules, the buyer is protected in case of non-delivery. It makes no mention of tracking.  https://www.paypal.com/in/webapps/mpp/paypal-buyer-protection

                                  6. Finally, it was the seller who offered me the option of shipping without tracking. It was he who chose the Postal Company which lost the package.

                                  I rest my case. Thank you!

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                                  • BD81B
                                    BD81
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                                    Can Anyone in canada give me an idea on how much i am going to get dinged on import fees for 2 to 3 pairs of pants?

                                    R.I.P. Filthy🤘

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                                    • neph93N
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                                      @BD81:

                                      Can Anyone in canada give me an idea on how much i am going to get dinged on import fees for 2 to 3 pairs of pants?

                                      @theorocks ?

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                      • ShoremanS
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                                        @BD81:

                                        Can Anyone in canada give me an idea on how much i am going to get dinged on import fees for 2 to 3 pairs of pants?

                                        Are you importing the pants into Canada? If so, total damage will depend on the overall declared value of the items and method of shipment. Anything over a declared value of $50 and you’re looking at whatever your provincial sales tax is + federal and, if it’s being shipped by one of the big three (UPS, Fed EX, DHL) you can tack on an additional brokerage fee, which can vary. (Again, a % of the declared value of the shipment.)

                                        Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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                                        • GilesG
                                          Giles
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                                          If importing from IHUK, there should be no import tax as we are covered by the CETA agreement.

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • peregrineP
                                            peregrine
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                                            @BD81:

                                            Can Anyone in canada give me an idea on how much i am going to get dinged on import fees for 2 to 3 pairs of pants?

                                            It's highway robbery. About half of the time customs dings me for 17% duty, 5% GST and 10% PST on the declared value plus a $10 handling fee. The rest get through with no fees.

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