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    • BloodnThunderB
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      Unless another Nike sub-2 attempt is organized I can't see Kipchoge going sub-2….  Ever.  There are so many factors that have to fall into place, many out of the athlete's control, for a PR/WR to happen in a marathon that I can't see the current WR being touched for quite some time let alone a sub-2.  You also have to consider that 2020 is an Olympic year which has a huge impact on the scheduling of races for the top marathoners.

      IG: Shadesofindig0

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        I think once @cander49 sorts out his injury, that milestone will finally tumble!  😎

        Congratulations chap, great effort.

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          Hahahahaha. I do think Kipchoge has 2:00:xx capability in a real race, not just a Nike event. A few variables weren't perfect here: slightly hot and humid for a WR, a bit too sunny, and pacers not making it very far. Fix all of those and 2:00:xx can happen. 1:59:59 can't, but I do think he's at the point where it can in a Nike event with pacing the whole way.

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          • UnTuckedU
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            Question I posed on my FB page a few weeks ago pertaining to a specific running goal, and how to tackle it.

            If I have a goal of running 2miles in 12:00, and 5miles in 35:00, what would be the best way to tackle that? I understand they are two separate goals, and will need two plans, but thinking about the two of them independently, should I:

            -focus on the time, and work on increasing distance within that allotted time
            -focus on the distance, and work on improving my time

            –---

            Right now, I'm just working on getting my legs back under me, and making running an enjoyable "habit" again, as it's been about 3 years since I've ran with any sort of consistency.

            All input is welcomed.

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            IHSH-185, large
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            • nurunuruN
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              @UnTucked I'm certainly no expert, but a frequently recommended training plan would probably be to include sessions of interval training.  Y'know…  Kindof a regimented fartlek style where you'll run at your dream pace for 400m, then jog for a bit, then repeat.  As you get fitter, you increase the length of your faster segments.  With a 5-mile speed goal, you'd probably end up with some preeetty long (like, 2-mile) fast intervals in your interval training.  I'd also think that training for speed with your 5-mile target would pretty much take care of the 2-mile target as a byproduct.  Throw in some easy runs and whatnot, too, so you don't trash yourself.  Plenty of sleep.  Good diet.  All that malarkey  😃

              With 5 miles being so close to a 10K, you could probably just tweak any number of 10K training plans to suit your liking.  Those are often written by people who know what they're talking about.  Unlike myself.

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              • UnTuckedU
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                @nurunuru:

                @UnTucked I'm certainly no expert, but a frequently recommended training plan would probably be to include sessions of interval training.  Y'know…  Kindof a regimented fartlek style where you'll run at your dream pace for 400m, then jog for a bit, then repeat.  As you get fitter, you increase the length of your faster segments.  With a 5-mile speed goal, you'd probably end up with some preeetty long (like, 2-mile) fast intervals in your interval training.  I'd also think that training for speed with your 5-mile target would pretty much take care of the 2-mile target as a byproduct.  Throw in some easy runs and whatnot, too, so you don't trash yourself.  Plenty of sleep.  Good diet.  All that malarkey  😃

                With 5 miles being so close to a 10K, you could probably just tweak any number of 10K training plans to suit your liking.  Those are often written by people who know what they're talking about.  Unlike myself.

                All points taken, and I've already looked up what appears to be a fairly solid 8-weeks 10k training plan ( https://www.runnersworld.co.uk/training/rws-8-week-10k-schedule-3-days-per-week ) , though I have far more time than that to improve, as of right now. Maybe finding a race to participate in could be a nice push to get me more focused…..

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                IHSH-185, large
                IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                • dave28D
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                  Don't push too extremes guys trying to get times. Two young men in their 20s and 30s basically had heart attacks shorty after finishing the Cardiff half marathon the other day and both died.

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                  • UnTuckedU
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                    It's definitely a LONG TERM goal that I'm shooting for (About a year or so out…..), and I will surely let my body dictate how far/fast I push myself

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                    IHSH-185, large
                    IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                    • nurunuruN
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                      @UnTucked:

                      It's definitely a LONG TERM goal that I'm shooting for (About a year or so out…..), and I will surely let my body dictate how far/fast I push myself

                      Good deal.  I'm kind of a singleminded, gung-ho sort of fella, and this has led to my run training absolutely kicking my patootie in the past.  I came to the realisation that long races, for me at least, are basically just a way of taking something fun and making it punishingly miserable.

                      I think it's fair to say I'm not a 'born athlete,' though  😃

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                      • UnTuckedU
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                        Two 8:00 miles are kicking my ass right now, lol

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                        IHV-04, med.
                        IHSH-185, large
                        IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                        • madmondayM
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                          oh getting on of these for the holidays or something for my old bones

                          an ounce of something beats a pound of something or the other

                          head high, middle finger higher

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                          • den1mheadD
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                            Taking part in the York Marathon today in the wind and heavy rain. Running for Broadway Lodge. Not looking forward to it at all.

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                            • steelworkerS
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                              Best of luck Barcley!

                              Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                              Well, I have others.

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                                Good on you @den1mhead - best of luck!

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                                • den1mheadD
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                                  The race was a nightmare but it's done.
                                  Thanks again to those that donated [emoji3590]

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                                  • madmondayM
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                                    glad your training and perseverance paid off

                                    congrats 🎉🍾🎈🎊

                                    head high, middle finger higher

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                                    • Matty123M
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                                      @den1mhead !! Yeah dude. That’s awesome!!

                                      Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                      • nurunuruN
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                                        Congrats!

                                        You can probably just finish off that remaining 0.1 mile when it isn't raining  😃

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                                        • den1mheadD
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                                          @UnTucked  - you want to do strength training rather than endurance training as your goals are for shorter rather than longer distances. I would look into interval training, hill repeats and high intensity training all of which will help you to gain strength and power. Good luck and take it steady as this type of training can easily lead to injury if rushed.

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                                            Well done sir, great effort! 👍

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