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    • louisboscoL
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      @Appfaff:

      Another option - the new Camry really is an amazing product. Great looks, interior upgrades, and decent package options. Considering my FIL bought my wife a base economy Camry in 2009 for $9,800 and we traded it in for $7,200 in 2014 after 130k miles and 2 accidents, I’d say Camrys are up there in residual as well.

      ^^ when they released this end of last year/ early this year, i thought damn. the new camry and corolla has got that menacing look to it's design aesthetic. and the lines look sexy as hell too. unfortunately, i cannot really comment on prices as i wouldn't know the car prices and second hand market well..

      maybe even consider what you need/looking for - rear legroom, big boot, safety features(blind spot, lane departure warning and the likes, electronics (keyless entry,led headlights, infotainment systems and such) etc..

      "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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      • AppfaffA
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        ^100% this.

        With kids in the backseat, you need to make sure you have enough room for car seats, etc. something we found we needed to ungraded to full size Sedans for.

        But you only have 1, so you should be fine lol [emoji23]

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        • gaseousclayG
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          @Appfaff:

          ^100% this.

          With kids in the backseat, you need to make sure you have enough room for car seats, etc. something we found we needed to ungraded to full size Sedans for.

          But you only have 1, so you should be fine lol [emoji23]

          I watched a couple of youtube reviews for the 2015 Accord Sport and one thing they have a lot of is plenty of backseat space. My son has graduated to a booster seat so it's not really an issue.

          WTB:
          IHSH-129 size L (blue)
          IHSH-19

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          • AppfaffA
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            Even better.

            Alex on Autos in YouTube does a great job with the car seat tests.

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            • gaseousclayG
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              @louisbosco:

              ^^ when they released this end of last year/ early this year, i thought damn. the new camry and corolla has got that menacing look to it's design aesthetic. and the lines look sexy as hell too. unfortunately, i cannot really comment on prices as i wouldn't know the car prices and second hand market well..

              maybe even consider what you need/looking for - rear legroom, big boot, safety features(blind spot, lane departure warning and the likes, electronics (keyless entry,led headlights, infotainment systems and such) etc..

              I may consider a Camry if the Honda doesn't pan out. It'll still be awhile before I actually get a new/used car, so i'm using this time to do research and figure out what I need and want.

              WTB:
              IHSH-129 size L (blue)
              IHSH-19

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              • AppfaffA
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                If you are an enthusiasts of any sort, you will find that what you need and what you want are two very different things.

                I need a spacious, 4WD SUV that can haul barbells, two child seats, two dogs, and go through floods and mud.

                I was an E63 AMG Wagon.

                Similar but very different haha [emoji23]

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                • mclaincauseyM
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                  My personal experience with Honda (including two Acura) and Toyota is that they are amazing cars.

                  I had a Toyota Solera (Camry coupe) that gave me 14 years of dependable service with nothing beyond routine maintenance. This included 8 years in Minnesota winters where even the extreme cold never killed the ability to start the engine, not the constant salt any obvious damage. I had two instances of accidental rally car driving in that vehicle, one in Moab (Google Maps diverted me on to a very scary 4x4 track of mud and snow) that would challenge a custom four wheeler, and the car sustained all the abuse (including getting it unstuck several times and barrelling down a muddy track so that I would hydroplane over mud rather than sink into it) I could levy on it with hardly a sigh.

                  These marques are built to last if even I can't wreck one.

                  Think it, be it.

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                  • gaseousclayG
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                    @Appfaff:

                    If you are an enthusiasts of any sort, you will find that what you need and what you want are two very different things.

                    I need a spacious, 4WD SUV that can haul barbells, two child seats, two dogs, and go through floods and mud.

                    I was an E63 AMG Wagon.

                    Similar but very different haha [emoji23]

                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                    I'm definitely not an enthusiast. I just need something practical that can reliably handle Minnesota winters. I typically dislike flashy cars but I'll make an exception for the Accord Sport because it isn't over the top.

                    WTB:
                    IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                    IHSH-19

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                    • mclaincauseyM
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                      I know this consideration is already in your mind, but for Minnesota, I'd want AWD, and perhaps a higher stance to deal with snow drifts. I made it through 8 years with my FWD Toyota in Minneapolis, but when snow and ice are present for so much of the year, I'd make sure to get as good traction as possible year round.

                      In Colorado I have done that by buying a "rugged" "off-road" station wagon (Subaru Outback) with the engine upgrade to better tackle mountainous terrain and full loads. It's too early for me to rave about it being in the same class of reliability as Honda and Toyota, but so far, so good.

                      Think it, be it.

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                      • gaseousclayG
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                        @mclaincausey:

                        I know this consideration is already in your mind, but for Minnesota, I'd want AWD, and perhaps a higher stance to deal with snow drifts. I made it through 8 years with my FWD Toyota in Minneapolis, but when snow and ice are present for so much of the year, I'd make sure to get as good traction as possible year round.

                        In Colorado I have done that by buying a "rugged" "off-road" station wagon (Subaru Outback) with the engine upgrade to better tackle mountainous terrain and full loads. It's too early for me to rave about it being in the same class of reliability as Honda and Toyota, but so far, so good.

                        I’ve driven FWD forever and can honestly say that I’ve never had issues with snow drifts. I always keep a shovel in my trunk anyway so in the event I got stuck I can always dig myself out.

                        We had 2 back to back blizzards in Mpls back in March or April that yielded over a foot of snow each. Took me an hour to dig myself out each time, but once I got moving driving was easy. The problem I often see is that people simply don’t know how to handle driving in deep snow or ice. Their solution is to step on the gas and try to accelerate their way out of a drift or patch of ice. It works sometimes but more often than not it makes things worse. I’ve found that digging a clear path around my car and pulling out slowly is what has worked for me every time.

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                        WTB:
                        IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                        IHSH-19

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          All that is true, yet with AWD you are in much better shape on snow and ice–whether or not you have always gotten by with FWD as I also did in my 8 years in MPLS, you're even better off with AWD.

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • ChrisC
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                            @gaseousclay:

                            I watched a couple of youtube reviews for the 2015 Accord Sport and one thing they have a lot of is plenty of backseat space. My son has graduated to a booster seat so it's not really an issue.

                            I have two kids, ages 10 and 7, so I have a pair of booster seats in the back.  There's plenty of room.

                            And the LATCH points to attach them are easy to access, unlike my wife's Outback. That thing is a pain in the ass to put in car seats or booster seats.

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                            • louisboscoL
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                              it's a shame the japanese manufacturers don't export some model to countries that have severe winters. i know that in japan. their normal model cars come in an AWD variant. so basically all the FWD cars that you currently are familiar with. corolla, camry, mazda 3 and 6, accord etc..

                              @Appfaff:

                              If you are an enthusiasts of any sort, you will find that what you need and what you want are two very different things.

                              I need a spacious, 4WD SUV that can haul barbells, two child seats, two dogs, and go through floods and mud.

                              I was an E63 AMG Wagon.

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                              in that case, i'm a G63 AMG 6x6

                              "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                              • bryaneidins70B
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                                Love this for $7500

                                'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                • den1mheadD
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                                  Heading up north to the Scooby Clinic in Chesterfield where our Subaru currently resides to discuss the engine plus ancillaries build to take our car upto 390BHP. It's gonna be 8-12 week wait however we do get a Subaru Legacy courtesy car which we are now en-route to collect

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                                  • organisysO
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                                    Ask them about fuel use and turbo lag !

                                    Do you plan on using the car everyday ?

                                    Pride of Japan :-)

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                                    • dave28D
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                                      @organisys:

                                      Ask them about fuel use and turbo lag !

                                      Do you plan on using the car everyday ?

                                      People with 400 odd HP Subaru and Evo`s don't care about such things.

                                      They are so fast that Police in the UK have adopted their own modded versions because they proved to be so formidable to keep up with in a police chase. ie they were burning off the cops

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                                      • den1mheadD
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                                        @organisys:

                                        Ask them about fuel use and turbo lag !

                                        Do you plan on using the car everyday ?

                                        Fuel usage and turbo lag are issues we can live with as the car isn't a daily driver [emoji106]
                                        When I return from the trip up north I'll post  the engine build & ancillaries list . . . . . .

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                                        • louisboscoL
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                                          @dave28:

                                          People with 400 odd HP Subaru and Evo`s don't care about such things.

                                          They are so fast that Police in the UK have adopted their own modded versions because they proved to be so formidable to keep up with in a police chase. ie they were burning off the cops

                                          i'm not sure about this but i thought i saw a FQ400 evo in one of those uk police shows like highway patrol etc..

                                          @den1mhead:

                                          Heading up north to the Scooby Clinic in Chesterfield where our Subaru currently resides to discuss the engine plus ancillaries build to take our car upto 390BHP. It's gonna be 8-12 week wait however we do get a Subaru Legacy courtesy car which we are now en-route to collect

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                                          oh is it the 4th gen legacy?!? those cars do make some serious aftermarket power.. whats your plan for you current rex?

                                          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                          • den1mheadD
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                                            @louisbosco A communication from SCOOBYCLINIC (www.scoobyclinic.com) regarding our new (to us) Subaru . . . .

                                            The list below gives us a engine build capable of withstanding 500 BHP;

                                            Media blast engine casings
                                            Skim block faces
                                            CDB converion
                                            Re bore and hone cylinders
                                            Machine conrod clearances
                                            Forged piston set
                                            Uprated rods
                                            Crankshaft
                                            Big end and main bearings
                                            Complete gasket & seal kit
                                            Oil pump & water pump
                                            Custom head gaskets
                                            ARP Headstuds
                                            Full timing belt kit
                                            3 Bond sealer
                                            Skim cylinder heads
                                            Oil filter
                                            oil
                                            coolant
                                            Spark plugs
                                            Chemical clean of all parts
                                            Environmental charge
                                            6 helicoils
                                            Re furbish cylinder heads

                                            To achieve circa that (500 BHP) you will need the following;
                                            SC 46 Billet turbo charger
                                            Uprated fuel injectors
                                            Uprated fuel pump
                                            Perrin FMIC kit
                                            Labour perrin FMIC kit
                                            Excedy clutch twin plate
                                            Perrin inlet pipe
                                            Perrin induction kit
                                            Fuel pump wiring mod
                                            Adjustable FPR
                                            4 bar map sensor
                                            3 port EBCS
                                            oil cooler
                                            Perrin AOS
                                            Syvecs fitted and mapped

                                            However it can run less (380 to 400 BHP) very safely with the following extras;
                                            SC 38 Billet turbo charger
                                            Uprated fuel injectors
                                            Uprated fuel pump
                                            Excedy “pink box” clutch
                                            Perrin inlet pipe
                                            Perrin induction kit
                                            Fuel pump wiring mod
                                            Adjustable FPR (recommended but not essential)
                                            4 bar map sensor
                                            3 port EBCS
                                            oil cooler
                                            Perrin AOS (recommended but not essential)
                                            Re map

                                            We arrived at the Scoobyclinic yesterday and committed to the 380-400 BHP build. Now we have an 8-12 week wait as the garage is stacked out with engine builds.

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