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IH-555S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Jeans - Indigo PREVIOUSLY IH-555-01

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    Dion
    Joined: 15 Mar 2015

    I only had the relatively high rise with my very first pair where I sized incorrectly = too big. This cut should be comfortably snug in the top block from the beginning.

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      Stuart.T
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 21 Sept 2017

      @Dion:

      I only had the relatively high rise with my very first pair where I sized incorrectly = too big. This cut should be comfortably snug in the top block from the beginning.

      Comfortably snug…isn't that a Pink Floyd song?  🙂 I have sized snugly and they are really comfortable. Just low for a 44 yr old! An extra inch in the rear rise would be welcome. I have 888s in 21 oz, and the rise is great, leg opening a little wider. I'm a size 36 in 555s and 888s. I tried a pair of 14oz 777s today too. Such a difference between the overly loose 38 and not even if I breathe in tight 36.

      Don't get me wrong, 555s are the best fitting cut in IH I've come across yet  😉

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        Dion
        Joined: 15 Mar 2015

        @Stuart.T:

        555s are the best fitting cut in IH I've come across yet  😉

        Seconded! They work for me really well, too! Comfy top block, awesome taper with an excellent leg opening for a modern/slim silhouette. Luckily (or unluckily?) so many new denim options will be coming this fall/winter to choose from.

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          neph93
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          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          I think that the description of the height of the rise has always been relative in jeans history (go check out Freddie Mercury at Live Aid [emoji15]), but also when it comes to IH.

          When it came out, the 555 had a “relatively high rise” when compared to the 666 and 634 the two other “core” jeans in the IH line at the time time. Ignoring the peripheral 1955 cut, the two extremes (777 and 888) didn’t exist at that point.

          The other cut doing the rounds at the time, the IHxB01, had a rise described as slightly higher than the 634 as opposed to “high” in it’s own right. So most descriptions were relative to the 634 at that point, I think. The 634, 666, 555 are perhaps all medium rises, with the 634 being “low medium” and the 555 “high medium”.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
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            Dion
            Joined: 15 Mar 2015

            Good and correct point, neph!

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              Stuart.T
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 21 Sept 2017

              I've come to the conclusion that this is a stupidly low rise, not a high or medium high rise. The waist line (waist SHOULD be measured one inche below the naval) is sitting on my pubic line. I might have to sell these on. Very frustrating. I have no idea who this pair is cut to Fit?! They 'Fit' as in they aren't too tight, just stupidly low.

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                manufc10
                Iron Heart Deity
                Joined: 14 Mar 2015

                The rise does seem to vary quite a bit from fabric to fabric in this cut.  The 555-02 seems to have a much higher rise, especially in the rear.

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                  neph93
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                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  That’s strange. Mine are sized down but still have a higher rise than my TTS 634’s and 666’s. A rogue pair perhaps?

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
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                    Stuart.T
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 21 Sept 2017

                    I need to measure them against the stated dimensions. Sorry for sounding like a negative mf'er

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                      neph93
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                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                      @Stuart.T:

                      Sorry for sounding like a negative mf'er

                      Nah.. it can be frustrating stuff, I know.

                      I put mine on today, out of interest, and so you have a point of comparison. Full disclosure: I'm 6' and weigh about 14.5st. I take XL in most IH shirts. I have a big old afro-bum (thanks Dad), so I fill out top blocks to the max. In addition, if I fit waist correctly on the 555 then the thigh's are toight (thanks Dad, and rugby). My pair of these are W34, which is my normal jeans size these days.

                      I say all this so that you get context. These are snug everywhere on me but the rise is still high compared to the 634 and 666 (more of a medium rise relative to the 888). That is to say that at the back, the bottom tip of the yoke is at the top of my ahem buttcrack, and the top of the waistband is a good 4-5" over that. At the front the top button sits an inch under my navel.

                      Now I know we're different body shapes, but even so, the rise you describe does seem strangely low.

                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                      • Virginia Woolf
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                        Alex
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                        @manufc10:

                        The rise does seem to vary quite a bit from fabric to fabric in this cut.  The 555-02 seems to have a much higher rise, especially in the rear.

                        The rear rise shrinks more than most other measurements on raw/unwashed jeans, remember. (as it is bigger to begin with)

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                          Alex
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                          @Stuart.T:

                          I need to measure them against the stated dimensions. Sorry for sounding like a negative mf'er

                          @Stuart.T this is a stange one, if you want to email me with the full details I can try and help.

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                            Stuart.T
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 21 Sept 2017

                            @Alex:

                            @Stuart.T:

                            I need to measure them against the stated dimensions. Sorry for sounding like a negative mf'er

                            @Stuart.T this is a stange one, if you want to email me with the full details I can try and help.

                            Hi Alex. Thanks, I'll get on to that tonight. I know the stated rear rise on the 01 is lower than the 03, just didn't expect quite so different. I'm tempted to give the 18oz 02 a go. Pre wash measurements loom good, and if post rinse the rear rise only lost an inch, that would be perfect. I'll let you know!

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                              Stuart.T
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                              Joined: 21 Sept 2017

                              @neph93:

                              @Stuart.T:

                              Sorry for sounding like a negative mf'er

                              Nah.. it can be frustrating stuff, I know.

                              I put mine on today, out of interest, and so you have a point of comparison. Full disclosure: I'm 6' and weigh about 14.5st. I take XL in most IH shirts. I have a big old afro-bum (thanks Dad), so I fill out top blocks to the max. In addition, if I fit waist correctly on the 555 then the thigh's are toight (thanks Dad, and rugby). My pair of these are W34, which is my normal jeans size these days.

                              I say all this so that you get context. These are snug everywhere on me but the rise is still high compared to the 634 and 666 (more of a medium rise relative to the 888). That is to say that at the back, the bottom tip of the yoke is at the top of my ahem buttcrack, and the top of the waistband is a good 4-5" over that. At the front the top button sits an inch under my navel.

                              Now I know we're different body shapes, but even so, the rise you describe does seem strangely low.

                              @neph I'm 6'2" and 15st9lb. Pretty average height to weight ration. The belt line pretty much sits at my butt crack rather than the yoke! Sexy look for a hairy 44 yr old bloke…not a look the mums at the local kids soft play will dig I'm sure  😘

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                                neph93
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                                Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                @Stuart.T:

                                I'm 6'2" and 15st9lb. Pretty average height to weight ration. The belt line pretty much sits at my butt crack rather than the yoke! Sexy look for a hairy 44 yr old bloke…not a look the mums at the local kids soft play will dig I'm sure  😘

                                I'm not suggesting that this is actually the case, but that almost sounds like a pair of 777's with the wrong patch. I have the 555N and 555-03 as well as the 555-01 and the variations in fit just aren't that big. Very strange indeed.

                                “Some of those that work forces
                                Are the same that burn crosses”

                                • Virginia Woolf
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                                  Alex
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                                  @neph93:

                                  the variations in fit just aren't that big. Very strange indeed.

                                  This

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                                    Stuart.T
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 21 Sept 2017

                                    @neph93  and @Alex I have 555N in as 38 and 555 03 in 36. Both have very good rear rise for me, with the 555N obviously being higher due to waist size. The sz 36 in 555 03 are perfect. They are my grail cut…more news after measurements tonight!

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                                      Alex
                                      IHUK Crew
                                      Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                                      What tag are the 01s? @Stuart.T

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                                        Stuart.T
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 21 Sept 2017

                                        @Alex  tag size 36. I just measured the rear rise on my 03 and Ns. Both come in at 17" (post wash). My 01s are 15 3/4 Pre wash, so as listed…I guess 1" makes a bit of difference and I need to grow accustomed. I will still give the 02s ago one day. I love the dimensions of the thigh, knee, and leg opening of all 3 555s I have.

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                                          manufc10
                                          Iron Heart Deity
                                          Joined: 14 Mar 2015

                                          @Alex:

                                          @manufc10:

                                          The rise does seem to vary quite a bit from fabric to fabric in this cut.  The 555-02 seems to have a much higher rise, especially in the rear.

                                          The rear rise shrinks more than most other measurements on raw/unwashed jeans, remember. (as it is bigger to begin with)

                                          Right, but even considering that they seem to have a higher rear rise.  My 555-02's still have quite a high back rise after their first soak but I didn't actually take measurements to be fair.  This is just based on feel.

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