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    Watches - another OCD problem

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    • louisboscoL
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      @goosehd:

      My grail would be one of the Patek’s,

      hahaha. like this model??

      "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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      • louisboscoL
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        @JDelage:

        I've been looking very seriously at the Hulk. It's interesting in that it is available to anyone willing to wait 4-6 months and pay the cash, yet they can be resold at a premium even after a year or two of gentle use. There's also the "kermit", which is more discreet. I don't think it's made anymore.

        the kermit is not made anymore and is part of the older series of submariners that were non ceremic. hence the lesser 1 in their reference no.

        kermit 16610lv (LV- Lunette vett)
        hulk 116610lv (the extra 1 denotes ceremic)
        models that have LN is black (lunette noir/ black) and as a fun fact, xxx13 denotes half YG bracelet. there's a whole bunch more that i cannot remember because the list is freaking long..

        anyway the kermits are more collectable as they have 4 different dial variations that's based on the serial number which are based on the year produced.. examples include, flat 4 font or not, where the oyster O sits in relation to the R in the Rolex, the maxi dial without maxi case etc. some variations are more valuable than others as well..

        i honestly think the kermit is much better looking than the hulk just because it's less flashy and less in your face and only people that know the model would go oh….

        i know rolex controls their stocks but i'm pretty certain that certain AD do that as well. i know 1, whose name i shall not mention, that controls their stock of 'sport' rolexes (especially with that recent release of the daytona) very tightly and will sell them to highest bidder or "family and friends". they also do not have a fixed number of models in their stocktake and they will not release the number of models they have or receive to auditors as well.

        "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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        • JDelageJ
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          Getting the Daytona SS certainly seems to be a weird game. It reminds me a bit of what is happening in the contemporary art market (for what I read about it - I'm not directly involved.)

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          • goosehdG
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            @louisbosco Yes, that Patek would be a grail (unrealistic and possibly life threatening (mine)), and I can only imagine the conversation with the better half.  It would not be pretty…..

            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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            • goosehdG
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              I like so many others wish for unlimited funds to fill the toy box.  Realistically, I am extremely happy with my Sea-Dweller and probably won’t buy a watch for a long time.

              Now, if someone wants to give me a watch or sell me one cheap, that’s a different story.

              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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              • JDelageJ
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                So … I have an option to buy a BNIB Oris Carl Brashear (the bronze Diver 65) for $3.4k. It seems a good deal when looking at the current price of used versions. On the other hand, I'm going to be somewhat bitter if they produce another version in a couple year that can be had for $2.8k.

                What do you guys think?

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                • GraemeG
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                  Do you want the watch enough to overlook the $600 premium?

                  If so, pay the extra, and accept that you might not get it back.

                  If not, there's the Carl Brashear Chronograph at around $5000. Get a discount on it, and you might close the gap.

                  Alternatively, Jomashop have the Tudor Black Bay Bronze in stock for $3700, and they're about $4000 from regular dealers.

                  If you're worried about holding value, get the Bucherer special edition with a blue dial. (There's a piece at Hodinkee about it.)

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                  • steelworkerS
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                    Hmm…  ??? yeah, I'm going back to the other watch thread, where I belong.

                    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                    Well, I have others.

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                    • GraemeG
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                      @steelworker you do realise that watch addiction is progressive? You start off looking at Timexes and Hamiltons, and before you know it, you'll be ogling Pateks and Langes. 😉

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                      • steelworkerS
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                        sigh… I'm now reading about watches,  ::) it's only a matter of time...sorry.  😶

                        Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                        Well, I have others.

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                        • GilesG
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                          @JDelage:

                          So … I have an option to buy a BNIB Oris Carl Brashear (the bronze Diver 65) for $3.4k. It seems a good deal when looking at the current price of used versions. On the other hand, I'm going to be somewhat bitter if they produce another version in a couple year that can be had for $2.8k.

                          What do you guys think?

                          If you are pleased with your purchase and think you paid a fair price, what's to be bitter about?

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • JDelageJ
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                            @Giles:

                            If you are pleased with your purchase and think you paid a fair price, what's to be bitter about?

                            That's a fair point. If I keep it for a very long time, it's no biggie. However, sometimes I get tired of a piece and I want to sell it. I don't mind losing some money doing that - paying the rent if you wish - but I don't like taking a huge loss.

                            The Tudor Black Bay Bronze Blue (BBBB!) is lovely but I'm not sure it's available for me in the US. We'll see.

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                            • S
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                              Interesting description of the Kermit.

                              One of their most polarizing revelations came in 2003 with the release of their 50-year pat on the back to themselves, the Rolex Submariner 16610LV. Introduced to commemorate the half century of one of the most iconic timepieces ever made, the anniversary edition of the world’s favorite dive watch shocked the Rolex faithful with its bright green bezel.

                              Like any great upheaval, it split opinion, gaining as many detractors as admirers and clogging up countless forums with those arguing for and against.

                              To its fans, it will always be known as The Kermit. Those not so enamored of that gleaming emerald surround nicknamed it The Vomit Sub. It’s not easy being green!

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                              • DougNgD
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                                I have a couple friends that have Hulks, and while they love owning it, they all pretty much said the same thing: they have a hard time pairing it with the rest of their clothes.

                                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                • DougNgD
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                                  Worth a read if you're into dive watches

                                  http://watchesbysjx.com/2017/03/real-world-test-diving-with-the-rolex-submariner-sinn-u1-seiko-turtle-and-seiko-prospex-scuba-diver-padi.html

                                  I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                  • JDelageJ
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                                    @DougNg - Good article, thank you.

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      He likes ceramic bezels.

                                      Not a real scuba diver.

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                                      • JDelageJ
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                                        I think I'm going to try to get the Grand Seiko SBGJ231 from Japan when it comes out in February. If anyone has a tip on how to obtain one of those (boutique only), I'm listening.

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                                        • DougNgD
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                                          Are they allowed to ship? Might be worth calling a boutique and finding out if you can just order over the phone and ask if they would ship it to your location.

                                          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Try here:

                                            https://www.seiyajapan.com/

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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