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    • ShoremanS
      Shoreman
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      Hmmm. Ian is a long-standing member of sufu; if he actually did scam all these people, I'd be surprised.
      Hopefully nothing serious has happened that has caused his disappearance.

      Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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      • SeulS
        Seul
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        @Cole:

        Then you have been intelligent enough to pay the normal way and not friends & family as I did.  ::)

        Open a dispute either way…

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        • madmosesM
          madmoses
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          @Seul:

          @Cole:

          Then you have been intelligent enough to pay the normal way and not friends & family as I did.  ::)

          Open a dispute either way…

          I paid F/F too @Cole - maybe we can still salvage this all somehow yet. I’m on holiday right now so I won’t have much time to deal with this for about a week yet, let me know how the dispute with PayPal goes for you.

          What would Jesus wear?

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          • ColeC
            Cole
            啓蒙家
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            I don't think there is an option to open a dispute for f&f payments at all, @Seul , @madmoses , but I'll take a look when I'm back home later on. Can't use PayPal at work.

            WTB:
            IHJ-96-OLV Size L
            IHE-13

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            • SeulS
              Seul
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              I know a lad who got a refund despite having paid through a personal payment… Contact Paypal (phone, don't message them, they won't respond)...

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              • madmondayM
                madmonday
                Raw and Unwashed
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                ^
                truth, I have had to jump through a bunch of hoops for a personal payment but was eventually refunded.

                Print out all transaction details so you can refer to them and call.  my email requests got zero responses.

                head high, middle finger higher

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                • GilesG
                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
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                  We have banned @Akuma no uta  (Ian Wagner).  We tried hard to get him to meet his obligations.  I even got a fellow member and friend of Ian's to try and get him to do the right thing.  Ian said that he would sort it and then nothing happened.

                  Whilst transaction in the marketplace are transactions between 2 parties and we have nothing to do with that other than provide the wherewithal for the communications, we do feel bad that an Iron Heart member has ripped off other members.

                  We will not tolerate this behaviour.

                  Good riddance.

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • SeulS
                    Seul
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                    Good decision. Sorry for the folks who got ripped off… Be sure to contact Paypal, no matter how you paid!!!

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                    • DstaufferD
                      Dstauffer
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                      I have found PayPal to be more than reasonable in these instances…hoping that transfers to those who were ripped off.

                      This situation is absolutely mind boggling to me and beyond ridiculous, especially given that my experience of our community here is fairly tight knit and there is a level of mutual respect (for the most part) between forum memebers.

                      That being said, for newer members, I would like to say this is by far the exception rather than the rule. I have been a buyer and seller in numerous transactions here and found the many forum members I have dealt with to be honest, fair, and always honorable.

                      I appreciate the IH Crew and Mods handling this situation in the manner they have and with the appropriate level of severe consequence. Thank you for helping keep our community and it’s members at the high standard it deserves to be held to.

                      You won’t be satisfied until you wear Iron Heart.

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                      • gaseousclayG
                        gaseousclay
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                        This kinda crap boggles my mind. I can't fathom why someone would deliberately deceive and steal from others who made a good faith payment for clothing. sorry you guys got duped

                        WTB:
                        IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                        IHSH-19

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                        • spitfiredealerS
                          spitfiredealer
                          Raw and Unwashed
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                          Seems even more mental when it is someone who seemed to be a regular doing the scamming.

                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                          • neph93N
                            neph93
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                            @spitfiredealer:

                            Seems even more mental when it is someone who seemed to be a regular doing the scamming.

                            Agreed. After a hiatus he came back here in the spring and posted nearly every day up until the end of October. Sad.

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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                            • AppfaffA
                              Appfaff
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                              Buying and selling can be a very stressful process for both the buyer and seller. I am very thankful to the vast majority of people that I have worked with that are both understanding on time constraints and understanding on shipping charges.

                              I am truly sorry for everyone who did not get the items they believed to be purchasing, especially since I’m sure most people have kids and the holidays are fast approaching.

                              Thank you to @Giles and the mods who have taken great concern In this matter, it’s not fair that Giles had to deal with this BS while on holiday.

                              My wife says I have too much faith in people, and that may be true, but I truly hope that something forces the young man to do the right thing and refund everyone’s money.

                              If we can not have trust in our friends (I consider everyone on the forum a “friend” until proven otherwise) than who can we trust….

                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                              • GilesG
                                Giles
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                                @Appfaff:

                                it’s not fair that Giles had to deal with this BS while on holiday.

                                Thanks Adam, but I don't think of myself being on holiday, I think of it more as working from somewhere else.  This business would not exist without customers, and without the forum, this business would be radically different from what it is.

                                I created the business and I set up the forum, I can't just abrogate responsibility and turn my back on either.  That said, we are going to Yacata tomorrow and I have no idea what my comms will be like from there.  I have a 5am "meeting" with Alex to try and get as much big stuff done before I'm potentially AWOL…..

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • AppfaffA
                                  Appfaff
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                                  Spoken like a true entrepreneur - enjoy Yacata - I’m sure it will be amazing.

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                                  • ShoremanS
                                    Shoreman
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                                    Was this issue ever settled in a satisfactory fashion for the buyers? He's currently active in the Urban Techwear section of Superfuture.

                                    Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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                                    • neph93N
                                      neph93
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                                      If you mean Akuma, then no, I don’t believe it was. Is he using the same nick?

                                      He’s been contacted by mods and stubborn crew alike on behalf of the forum and IHUK, on various platforms, and been asked to make things right. He hasn’t responded once, except through a third party and that was bull. He’d dead to us. But if anyone who’s lost money (or has an inflamed sense of injustice) wants to take a run at him then that’s good to know.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                      • ColeC
                                        Cole
                                        啓蒙家
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                                        Please pm me the link to where he is active right now. He scamed me out of 225€ and I would realy like to rain on his new parade. 😠

                                        Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk

                                        WTB:
                                        IHJ-96-OLV Size L
                                        IHE-13

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                                        • neph93N
                                          neph93
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                                          Go get him Cole.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                          • ShoremanS
                                            Shoreman
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                                            It's worth mentioning that his posts revolve around proper selling etiquette…

                                            Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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