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    • J
      JackGordon
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      Not much action in this thread for a while, that's got to be a good thing!

      I just wanted to steer people away from dealing with David Davies from north west Wales, who goes by Dave28 on this forum.

      I bought a pair of 634 OD from him, that were advertised as unworn and having a 34" inseam. After a payment and postage saga that was way longer than it needed to be, the jeans turned out to be evidently worn and washed (marbled from the washer), with a visible stain on the right knee and a 30.5" inseam.

      I sent them back and he did make a "refund", though I took a (massive, $55, 15%+) hit on the exchange rate in the meantime, to which he said "tough shit". This was after he looked at the jeans he sent me and realised how careless he'd been in describing the jeans he'd had on sale for several months.

      I can provide photos of the jeans and screenshots of the relevant ad and messages between the two of us. I don't recommend anyone deals with this man.

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      • Z
        Zim
        Raw and Unwashed
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        I recently purchased (or thought I did) some items from @Akuma no uta in this thread:

        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10720.0

        Four weeks later, I have not received anything, and he is not responding to my PMs.  I am not happy.

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        • ShoremanS
          Shoreman
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          @Zim:

          I recently purchased (or thought I did) some items from @Akuma no uta in this thread:

          https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10720.0

          Four weeks later, I have not received anything, and he is not responding to my PMs.  I am not happy.

          @Cole ?

          Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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          • Megatron1505M
            Megatron1505
            見習いボス
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            This is being looked into behind the scenes for all involved parties.

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • ShoremanS
              Shoreman
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              Good to know.
              Thanks.

              Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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              • D
                Drimble
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                I also thought I had bought from @Akuma no uta .Didn't receive the item and no replies to pm.
                Have opened a dispute with PayPal

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                • ColeC
                  Cole
                  啓蒙家
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                  @Drimble:

                  I also thought I had bought from @Akuma no uta .Didn't receive the item and no replies to pm.
                  Have opened a dispute with PayPal

                  Then you have been intelligent enough to pay the normal way and not friends & family as I did.  ::)

                  WTB:
                  IHJ-96-OLV Size L
                  IHE-13

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                  • ShoremanS
                    Shoreman
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                    Hmmm. Ian is a long-standing member of sufu; if he actually did scam all these people, I'd be surprised.
                    Hopefully nothing serious has happened that has caused his disappearance.

                    Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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                    • SeulS
                      Seul
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                      @Cole:

                      Then you have been intelligent enough to pay the normal way and not friends & family as I did.  ::)

                      Open a dispute either way…

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                      • madmosesM
                        madmoses
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                        @Seul:

                        @Cole:

                        Then you have been intelligent enough to pay the normal way and not friends & family as I did.  ::)

                        Open a dispute either way…

                        I paid F/F too @Cole - maybe we can still salvage this all somehow yet. I’m on holiday right now so I won’t have much time to deal with this for about a week yet, let me know how the dispute with PayPal goes for you.

                        What would Jesus wear?

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                        • ColeC
                          Cole
                          啓蒙家
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                          I don't think there is an option to open a dispute for f&f payments at all, @Seul , @madmoses , but I'll take a look when I'm back home later on. Can't use PayPal at work.

                          WTB:
                          IHJ-96-OLV Size L
                          IHE-13

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                          • SeulS
                            Seul
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                            I know a lad who got a refund despite having paid through a personal payment… Contact Paypal (phone, don't message them, they won't respond)...

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                            • madmondayM
                              madmonday
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                              ^
                              truth, I have had to jump through a bunch of hoops for a personal payment but was eventually refunded.

                              Print out all transaction details so you can refer to them and call.  my email requests got zero responses.

                              head high, middle finger higher

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                              • GilesG
                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
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                                We have banned @Akuma no uta  (Ian Wagner).  We tried hard to get him to meet his obligations.  I even got a fellow member and friend of Ian's to try and get him to do the right thing.  Ian said that he would sort it and then nothing happened.

                                Whilst transaction in the marketplace are transactions between 2 parties and we have nothing to do with that other than provide the wherewithal for the communications, we do feel bad that an Iron Heart member has ripped off other members.

                                We will not tolerate this behaviour.

                                Good riddance.

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • SeulS
                                  Seul
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                                  Good decision. Sorry for the folks who got ripped off… Be sure to contact Paypal, no matter how you paid!!!

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                                  • DstaufferD
                                    Dstauffer
                                    啓蒙家
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                                    I have found PayPal to be more than reasonable in these instances…hoping that transfers to those who were ripped off.

                                    This situation is absolutely mind boggling to me and beyond ridiculous, especially given that my experience of our community here is fairly tight knit and there is a level of mutual respect (for the most part) between forum memebers.

                                    That being said, for newer members, I would like to say this is by far the exception rather than the rule. I have been a buyer and seller in numerous transactions here and found the many forum members I have dealt with to be honest, fair, and always honorable.

                                    I appreciate the IH Crew and Mods handling this situation in the manner they have and with the appropriate level of severe consequence. Thank you for helping keep our community and it’s members at the high standard it deserves to be held to.

                                    You won’t be satisfied until you wear Iron Heart.

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                                    • gaseousclayG
                                      gaseousclay
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                                      This kinda crap boggles my mind. I can't fathom why someone would deliberately deceive and steal from others who made a good faith payment for clothing. sorry you guys got duped

                                      WTB:
                                      IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                      IHSH-19

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                                      • spitfiredealerS
                                        spitfiredealer
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                                        Seems even more mental when it is someone who seemed to be a regular doing the scamming.

                                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                                        • neph93N
                                          neph93
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                                          @spitfiredealer:

                                          Seems even more mental when it is someone who seemed to be a regular doing the scamming.

                                          Agreed. After a hiatus he came back here in the spring and posted nearly every day up until the end of October. Sad.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                          • AppfaffA
                                            Appfaff
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                                            Buying and selling can be a very stressful process for both the buyer and seller. I am very thankful to the vast majority of people that I have worked with that are both understanding on time constraints and understanding on shipping charges.

                                            I am truly sorry for everyone who did not get the items they believed to be purchasing, especially since I’m sure most people have kids and the holidays are fast approaching.

                                            Thank you to @Giles and the mods who have taken great concern In this matter, it’s not fair that Giles had to deal with this BS while on holiday.

                                            My wife says I have too much faith in people, and that may be true, but I truly hope that something forces the young man to do the right thing and refund everyone’s money.

                                            If we can not have trust in our friends (I consider everyone on the forum a “friend” until proven otherwise) than who can we trust….

                                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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