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IHxVS777S-21 - 21oz raw SBG Super Slim Tapered Cut - A Vater und Sohn Collab

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    Appfaff
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 11 Oct 2013

    Those looks great on you Monday - I am convinced I will try the 777cut next…

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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      madmonday
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 13 Oct 2009

      thanks for the kind word folks

      beware of the rise to thigh ratio.

      the jeans are dope, but the only reason i still have them is the blacked out W and the pockets . . . yes, I am special.

      all the talk of the selvedge superblack & the cut they are going to end up in has me very curious

      head high, middle finger higher

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        Appfaff
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        Joined: 11 Oct 2013

        @madmonday:

        thanks for the kind word folks

        beware of the rise to thigh ratio.

        Do you find them a lot more snug in the top block than the 555?

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          neph93
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          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          @Appfaff:

          Do you find them a lot more snug in the top block than the 555?

          I'm also interested in your take on that @madmonday

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
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            Jett129
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            Joined: 17 Aug 2011

            While you guys are waiting for a reply from Madmonday,I can weigh in as I also have both. I definitely find the 777s more snug up top then the 555s,but not to the point where it’s uncomfortable.

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              Appfaff
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 11 Oct 2013

              Thanks @Jett129 - Im curious because I find myself really enjoying the lower rise on my 8301, although I will admit to wishing I would have sized down now that i've put about 30-45 wears on them and they are about 2-3' too large in the waist and rather baggy in the thighs. I have come to think that the lower rise might actually fit my body type better, and while I love the 634 cut, they full leg isn't doing anything for my silhouette wise. I am convinced to try the 777 cut, but can't decide on the material. Right now it's either 14oz or 25oz, and while I know the 14oz might be more manageable, the 777XHS may be my only option for getting a suitable tailored look in the 25oz fabric.

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                Jett129
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                Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                I absolutely love my 777XHS. Took a while to break in,but totally worth it. When I got my tag 36 IHxVS 777s I asked for the jeans with the highest rise,which resulted in jeans with a 37.2 waist,which might have something to do with why they’re so comfortable. I never measured to see what the actual rise is.

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                  manufc10
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                  Joined: 14 Mar 2015

                  @Appfaff FWIW in my experience having owned the 777 and 634 cuts, I would advise sizing up one to two sizes from your 634 size.

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                    mikebarhoot
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                    Joined: 15 Dec 2015

                    ^thats my story and sticking to it.

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                      Dion
                      Joined: 15 Mar 2015

                      @Appfaff, you can also have a look at the PIHXHS https://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/pihxhs.html. I too was looking at the 777-XHS first but went for the Pronto collabo instead as their rise is slightly more comfy. They fit brilliantly by the way and are amongst my favourites.

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                        Appfaff
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 11 Oct 2013

                        Thanks @Jett129 -  @Adam measured the remaining size 38 777XHS for me and the measures were VERY close to me 8301 when raw, since I kinda wish I would have sized down on the 8301, Im thinking after a soak and some stretch the 777XHS might actually be perfect.

                        @manufc10 - thanks for the input dude - I think as long as the rear rise is somewhat close to 16 and the thigh is above the 13.5 mark, I'd be good to go (hopefully haha)

                        Thanks @Dion - I definately did check those out based on a rec from @Filthy 21/23oz junkie , but I fear the leg opening is larger than I want. Plus, the waist is a big too large for me when I get the thigh measure right. I could size down i guess lol

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                          mikebarhoot
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                          Joined: 15 Dec 2015

                          Love mine but will never be able to wear a shirt tucked in due to the rear rise.

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                            mikebarhoot
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                            Joined: 15 Dec 2015

                            Still don’t understand why a motorcycle specialty line would have such a low back rise. Are visible coin slots in fashion!?!  Lol

                            And granted i KNOW my body type is not meant for these but FTW!!!

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                              mikebarhoot
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                              ^see what i did there…

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                                manufc10
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                                Joined: 14 Mar 2015

                                @mikebarhoot:

                                Still don’t understand why a motorcycle specialty line would have such a low back rise. Are visible coin slots in fashion!?!  Lol

                                And granted i KNOW my body type is not meant for these but FTW!!!

                                This is a dangerously low rise on this cut.

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                                  manufc10
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                                  Joined: 14 Mar 2015

                                  @Appfaff:

                                  Thanks @Jett129 -  @Adam measured the remaining size 38 777XHS for me and the measures were VERY close to me 8301 when raw, since I kinda wish I would have sized down on the 8301, Im thinking after a soak and some stretch the 777XHS might actually be perfect.

                                  @manufc10 - thanks for the input dude - I think as long as the rear rise is somewhat close to 16 and the thigh is above the 13.5 mark, I'd be good to go (hopefully haha)

                                  Thanks @Dion - I definately did check those out based on a rec from @Filthy 21/23oz junkie , but I fear the leg opening is larger than I want. Plus, the waist is a big too large for me when I get the thigh measure right. I could size down i guess lol

                                  No problem man.  Keep in mind that with me saying that I have no problem at all sizing up and having a waist that's a bit loose on a low rise jean, I actually prefer it.  If I didn't I wouldn't be able to sit down and my jewels would get crushed.  The thigh fit is the most important to me, waist comes second…possibly even third.  I always size for the thigh.

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                                    Chris
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                                    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                    @mikebarhoot:

                                    Still don’t understand why a motorcycle specialty line would have such a low back rise. Are visible coin slots in fashion!?!  Lol

                                    As I recall, this was a Giles directed model, so the rise may have been a decision based in customer based, fashion driven requests, (Western customers, particularly) rather than in Japanese biker practicality.

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                                      madmonday
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 13 Oct 2009

                                      @Appfaff 777 top block is tighter than 301 top block. When I wear 777s I make sure I am not  🏃🏿anywhere as my beans tend to get smushed.

                                      for the record I have had 777  in 32 & 33 in the 14 oz denim and the rise with my chunky belts just didn’t work for me but I loved the slim leg and the denim. 301 I have had in 21, super black and that greyweft or weave version.

                                      @mikebarhoot they come in your size and so are made for you. don’t be ridiculous and think you have to wear only “dad denim” as long as you are comfortable in them rock out

                                      head high, middle finger higher

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                                        madmonday
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 13 Oct 2009

                                        🏍 are just the initial inspiration for the brand.

                                        they are so much more than that now.

                                        Coffee cups, Tupperware, blankets, sweatpants,  👢 removers, coasters, and lawn chairs

                                        head high, middle finger higher

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                                          madmonday
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                                          Joined: 13 Oct 2009

                                          Last I promise so much text I mistakenly spoke about the 301 instead of the 555 🤦🏿‍♂️👴🏿

                                          555 more relaxed and forgiving in the top block than the 777 it is all about the rise and the thighs everything else can be sorted

                                          🤷🏿‍♂️💆🏿‍♂️

                                          head high, middle finger higher

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