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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    IHSH-180 - Ultra Heavy Flannel Classic Check Western Shirt

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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      @tmg:

      I know this has been raised multiple times over the years, but given the popularity and availability of this shirt, would you reconsider your position on deposit/pre-orders? I know I'd be happy to pay a significant deposit to secure something I wanted

      No.

      Here's why.

      We ask for pre-orders, we get the following orders:

      S - 3
      M - 6
      L - 8
      XL - 8
      XXL - 4

      We make those numbers and the sizing is a size too small.

      We can thus fulfil:

      XS - 3
      S - 6
      M - 8
      L - 8
      XL - 4
      XXL - 0

      So to avoid pissing people off (and I can tell you now, you would be a lot more pissed off with us if you had pre-ordered and then we could not fulfil), we have to over order, to ensure we can fulfil if the sizing comes out too large or too small.

      So we get left with stock that we do not want, which means our cost base goes up and puts pressure on our prices across the board.

      Anyone who says they can do pre-orders with clothing and not either piss customers off or increase their stock levels is talking through their arse.

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • GilesG
        Giles
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        @goosehd:

        Just curious if you guys routinely do analysis of quantities ordered/sold in the different sizes, and compare them to sizes that you discount to move?

        I'm sure it is a bit of guesswork in ordering based upon the style, but it may help in nailing down quantities of the different sizes.

        Inventory management is always a pain in the …...

        We analyse and refine all the time.  But because we do not actually know what we would have sold had we had infinite numbers of each size, then the data is incomplete

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          Danny RnH
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          Don't despair guys. Iron Heart has some great retailers which can help you out too. Just saying.

          Danny
          www.rivetandhide.com

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          • GilesG
            Giles
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            Another thing.

            We asked for forms to be completed for the Kanreki shirt.  I know that filling a form is does not imply real demand like actually paying a deposit, but we had 130 unique customer completed forms. That gave us a pretty good view of what the bell curve for shirts looked like. And because I did not want to piss anyone off, we have 135.

            But we only shifted 60 of them.  I know the sizing was an issue, so that takes us back to the problem that I tried to articulate in my response to @tmg .  Bottom line is I have 72 shirts on the shelf that I don't really want taking up space and using working capital….

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • Jordonf9J
              Jordonf9
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              If a XL or XXL comes back/returned today or tomorrow let me know please 🙂

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              • goosehdG
                goosehd
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                Thanks Giles.  I knew that there could not be a simple answer to a complex problem.  Nailing down all of the variables is what makes inventory management so much fun  :'(.

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                • ShoremanS
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                  @Giles:

                  But we only shifted 60 of them.  I know the sizing was an issue, so that takes us back to the problem that I tried to articulate in my response to @tmg .  Bottom line is I have 72 shirts on the shelf that I don't really want taking up space and using working capital….

                  Ouch.

                  Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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                    browniemcghee
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                    Again, these are up at Rivet and Hide. Their customer service is second only to IHUK. Looks like XL is available.

                    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

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                    • GilesG
                      Giles
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                      The shipping bench when I left the office this evening…..

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • DstaufferD
                        Dstauffer
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                        Pretty maids all in a row…. 😛

                        You won’t be satisfied until you wear Iron Heart.

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                        • FurattoHeddoF
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                          Cannot wait! 😀

                          "Don't ever be sorry"

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                          • G.J.F-64G
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                            Can you tell when the Low Down gets his Shirts, G.?

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                              Peterpiper
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                              @Giles are there more or less of the workshirts coming? And will any retailers take them?

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                              • GilesG
                                Giles
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                                @G.J.F-64:

                                Can you tell when the Low Down gets his Shirts, G.?

                                Probably Friday…

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • neph93N
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                                  @browniemcghee:

                                  Again, these are up at Rivet and Hide. Their customer service is second only to IHUK. Looks like XL is available.

                                  Not anymore  😃 Impressive stuff…

                                  “Some of those that work forces
                                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                                  • Virginia Woolf
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                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
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                                    @Peterpiper:

                                    @Giles are there more or less of the workshirts coming? And will any retailers take them?

                                    The Same number coming to IHUK as the IHSH-180.

                                    SE
                                    B&S
                                    Denim Heads
                                    VMC

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • ColeC
                                      Cole
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                                      @neph93:

                                      @browniemcghee:

                                      Again, these are up at Rivet and Hide. Their customer service is second only to IHUK. Looks like XL is available.

                                      Not anymore  😃 Impressive stuff…

                                      One of these is going my way.  😉

                                      WTB:
                                      IHJ-96-OLV Size L
                                      IHE-13

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        I'm very pleased for you @Cole . Made me sad to hear of your troubles at checkout.

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                                        • Virginia Woolf
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                                        • Jordonf9J
                                          Jordonf9
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                                          Have an XXL coming my way. Should be here Friday. Wanted one bigger than my normal XL as I wanted to be able to layer under this slightly and liked how my XXL IHSH193 fits

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                                          • NomadN
                                            Nomad
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                                            Tried to resist this bad boy but thankfully managed to persuade myself I needed it, oh and I had a bit ot of IH credit….and it's getting cooler now...plus I work damn hard dontcha know...here for a good time not a long time...don't see no hurses with luggage racks.  😉

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