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    IH-634S-GR - 21oz Grey Selvage Straight Cut Jeans

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    • ManticoreM
      Manticore
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      I really love this model! I wish they were coming back in a restock as I would need a pair in 34. There is one 33 left but don't think I can squeeze myself into them.

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      • GilesG
        Giles
        IHUK Crew
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        No more of the denim left I am afraid…..

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • spitfiredealerS
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          @Manticore:

          I really love this model! I wish they were coming back in a restock as I would need a pair in 34. There is one 33 left but don't think I can squeeze myself into them.

          The denim is very forgiving so unless your 34's are really too small then I see no reason why the 33 wouldn't work.

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          • spitfiredealerS
            spitfiredealer
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            So I started wearing these for work. They got a little dirty today…

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            • spitfiredealerS
              spitfiredealer
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              Hard to tell what kinda fading is happening under the all the dirt but they are taking a beating that's for sure.

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              • Black OrchidB
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                Wow, it will be really interesting to see after a wash. They look like camo!

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                • spitfiredealerS
                  spitfiredealer
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                  Well this is as clean as they are going to get

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                  • neph93N
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                    They look pretty effing great. Don't need to be cleaner  😉

                    «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                    • rocketR
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                      ;D… yeah they are cool, the way they are...

                      rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

                      It's all humbug, like everywhere
                      R.I.P. Geo

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                      • Black OrchidB
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                        They look great [emoji106]

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                        • den1mheadD
                          den1mhead
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                          @neph93:

                          They look pretty effing great. Don't need to be cleaner  😉

                          A G R E E D

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                          • ChaintitchC
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                            So they DO fade!  😉

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                            • spitfiredealerS
                              spitfiredealer
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                              Yeah they fade.

                              It's a subtle fade but it's a fade.

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                              • ChaintitchC
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                                @spitfiredealer:

                                The denim is very forgiving

                                Are all of the 21 oz. denims woven at the same tension as the flagship? Do they thusly behave similarly in terms of stretch, breathability, and feel?  I'm guessing no, on account of the variation in dyeing, thread types, etc…

                                But I'm human, so I'm usually wrong.

                                @Giles

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                                • spitfiredealerS
                                  spitfiredealer
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                                  I have the grey the over dyed and  normal 21oz and would say they are all pretty much the same.

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    @Chain$titch:

                                    Are all of the 21 oz. denims woven at the same tension as the flagship? Do they thusly behave similarly in terms of stretch, breathability, and feel?  I'm guessing no, on account of the variation in dyeing, thread types, etc…

                                    Haraki designs them from choice of cotton an up, so all he 21oz variations all start life the same way. Given that its the tension in the weave (or rather lack of) that decides stretch, they all behave pretty much the same because with the exception of the dye, they are. I'm rocking the new black/beige weft 21oz sample at the minute and it behaves exactly the same as the regular 21oz. So did my SBG BB's.

                                    «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                                    • Dame Vera Lynn
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                                    • J
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                                      So far my V&S 21OZ SBG seems different/not as soft as the normal one washed SBG. Haven't worn them that much yet,but still surprisingly crunchy.

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                                      • xtcclassicX
                                        xtcclassic
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                                        The 21oz Superblack denim feels pretty different than the regular 21oz denim. Much more rigid, a touch less breathable too but that part might be my imagination. Stretch-wise they seem similar but it's hard to tell for sure because the fit on mine isn't particularly tight anywhere.

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                                        • GilesG
                                          Giles
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                                          The 21oz non-selvedge superblack (and the 21oz non-selvedge indigo) is woven on projectile looms, not shuttle looms  They are completely different from the 21oz selvedge denim family, which are all essentially the same warp and weft construction, but are all woven on different looms, so the type of dye and dyeing process that the warp is subject to  and the idiosyncrasies of each individual loom (and service state) will create subtle difference in the characteristics  of the finished denim

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • xtcclassicX
                                            xtcclassic
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                                            Thanks, Giles! This makes perfect sense, and now I know I'm not crazy thinking the Superblack 21oz feels totally different than the regular 21oz.

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